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what anti freeze

Started by CRM_66, September 15, 2020, 02:39:10 PM

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freds

Quote from: Fred Mc on September 16, 2020, 02:20:42 PM
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I have followed BGM religiously for about a year. Don't particularily like his videos about fixing his VW Thing and such but then I can choose not to watch. But I think his instructional videos are tops.
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Not saying that he is better or worse that other mechanics just that I find his service worthwhile.
As for botched jobs over the years Ive read more than once that supposedly reputable shops have screwed up.

OK my take on this is that he is an old school evangelist in that if it kept our grandparents gainfully employed, maybe we should try to preserve what pieces of rolling history that are out there.

He does have a thing for Greyhound scenic-cruisers and would be the first to say that if someone stumbled across a fully seated bus; that they should not convert it!!! It should be restored and placed into a museum...

As to working on the VW Thing, hey all of us in high school would have thought that it was a brand new car!!! Absolutely nothing that our world war II shop teachers couldn't have helped us with.

Hey my shop teacher was an ex marine fighter pilot and we all conspired to get him talking in his way back machine mode to make the shop period wiz by!! Mr Wes Corman I do miss you and hey your daughter was killer!!!

Actually I bumped into him with friends where I had flown into an island resort for lunch and had to leave immediately; as the plane I was flying was rented and someone else was waiting for me to return so they could fly it. I should have said; hey I have a flat tire and I will be back late. Oh and he was driving his wooden boat which he had restored.

Flashing back to the airplane related stuff, I had a nice bird for two weeks and a friend of mine flew it immediately after my return and got chewed out for the grass stains that I left on the prop when taking the airplane camping in the back country...








chessie4905

If your post indicates you use water only, you're  asking for trouble, freezing temps can happen in many locations, even as far as Florida. If you mean you use your water mixed with new coolant, then never mind. I use our water with coolant. Out west the water is high in mineral that causes build up in system.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Quote from: chessie4905 on September 17, 2020, 04:24:06 AM
If your post indicates you use water only, you're  asking for trouble, freezing temps can happen in many locations, even as far as Florida. If you mean you use your water mixed with new coolant, then never mind. I use our water with coolant. Out west the water is high in mineral that causes build up in system.

Spring water is a term for home brew, like white lighting ,I have tasted some of the stuff that would eat the hoses off if used for anti freeze   
Life is short drink the good wine first

uncle ned



Clifford   I gave Wayne some.  I think he thought it was to drink  not to use for antifreeze.

LOL

uncle ned
4104's forever
6v92 v730
Huggy Bear

HoBoJo Busman

Double Eagle

  Ie: These kinds of situations should not be swept under the carpet and hushed up.

I am sorry to see you assumed I was suggesting that someones shoddy work, be swept under the carpet.
I did not say or suggest such.
Thank you for your opinion here, we all appreciate your concerns.

Living simply, at a slower pace and
loving it & learning more each day.

rusty

Ned That stuff was Antifreeze no wonder i didn't see straight for a few days.
Wayne

Dave5Cs

  :) Believe you all meant "Ted Campbell in Williams, California" at Coach Maintenance. ;)
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

dtcerrato

Yes, that's him! We just always said Ted in Williams...
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

luvrbus

Quote from: HoBoJo Busman on September 17, 2020, 03:28:05 PM
Double Eagle

  Ie: These kinds of situations should not be swept under the carpet and hushed up.

I am sorry to see you assumed I was suggesting that someones shoddy work, be swept under the carpet.
I did not say or suggest such.
Thank you for your opinion here, we all appreciate your concerns.

I get PM's all the time telling me there are 2 sides to the story but no one ever tells or documents the other side,the engine was screwed up,Yvan treated Scott fair I think it could have been a brawl on web,Yvan is a gentleman and a very sharp guy he just asked me for help and I helped him and stayed out of the video's
Life is short drink the good wine first

lostagain

I was at Clifford's for a week with Yvan, Sylvie, and Gary Hatt, taking apart that engine. What a mess!

I just want people to know to be very careful who you choose to wrench on your bus.
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

buswarrior

don't confuse self promotion with competence.

Don't confuse the number of inexperienced followers one has as some sort of reliable endorsement.

The carnie huckster didn't stand behind his work, otherwise none of us would have heard a peep.

The loud noises made by the bahing sheep have to be shouted over.

We have no way to know how many others out there have further problems after being "worked over" , same as the typical rv crowd, they praise their dealers for fixing the shoddy built stuff, with more shoddy built stuff, but they were treated well, and left blissfully unaware they got rooked.

Damned stupid not backing up your work, when dealing with someone with a continent wide exposure in another part of the automotive service industry.

Damned stupid.

Everytime someone posts to "try the monkey" the newbie must be warned.

Otherwise, we are all just as cheapened as he is.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

windtrader

I understand what the crux of the issue. Some feel the lack of experience is the problem while others seem to think taking care of the customer on promised work and costs is the problem. We all can learn more and make mistakes from time to time but I do agree having solid character and performing what is agreed to is the key to a good reputation and respect. Seems he generally does satisfactory work that meets his customers needs and expectations. Seems to keep busy but that could mean getting anybody for service is rare so you can't be too choosy and take what is out there.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

DoubleEagle

Quote from: buswarrior on September 18, 2020, 02:47:08 PM

don't confuse self promotion with competence.

Don't confuse the number of inexperienced followers one has as some sort of reliable endorsement.

The carnie huckster didn't stand behind his work, otherwise none of us would have heard a peep.


Great observations.

We have drifted off the original thread once again, but the new subject is more important than the first one.

When I first heard of the "Monkey" I thought, great, an experienced old school Detroit Mechanic is traveling around helping owners fix their older buses, and he even allows the owners to assist. Then I came to realize that he is relatively young, and that he does not have substantial training or experience beyond picking up knowledge from his son, and gaining training as he progressed through projects. Some people are happy with what he accomplished, but others are not. The 8V71 that he worked on for our Canadian friends was a disaster that is akin to allowing a student to rebuild an engine without guidance. On an Eagle that he worked on that is identical to one of mine, he adjusted the Torsilastics in a time consuming way that I found odd, and then he later added air bags when the adjustment did not work. I decided then that he would not work on any of my Eagles.

I also found it odd that he would use a "go fund me" solicitation to pay for a concrete pad at his new location. If he is running a "business", that seems inappropriate.

I would be very curious how his videos of various projects would be critiqued by truly experienced mechanics. They may look very interesting to the inexperienced, but would they stand scrutiny. When established garages decide to steer away from old buses, and 2 cycle mechanics disappear, we are left with the current situation which might be regarded as the exploitation of the uninitiated.  That will sound harsh to some, but inadequate to others.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

LeonS MC9

Ok, first time poster, hello I am one that appreciates all the knowledge that I see here but...  I also see just about every post drift to something that has noting to do do with what was originally asked...
This post was about what type of antifreeze or coolant was recommended for a specific motor...
Then I read all about how greasemonkey is...
Really?
Let's help the guy with recomendations on the coolant and not who wrecked a motor?
I am a noob and ready to face the consequences but please can we please answer the original question before we drift to other things?
1980 MCI MC9 S15377 6V92/HT740

Jriddle

Quote from: LeonS MC9 on September 19, 2020, 04:05:30 AMLet's help the guy with recomendations on the coolant and not who wrecked a motor?
I am a noob and ready to face the consequences but please can we please answer the original question before we drift to other things?

The original post was answered in my opinion

John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9