Need help figuring out why my 1992 60 Series won't run.

[windtrader]

Dude,


I am so confused now, more than usual. Just why are you here? It seemed the original goal was to gain knowledge about bus conversions, that is what this group is about. We were more than willing to help you progress toward that goal. I know I asked about your personal criteria so we can help you better. Parameters like what is your budget, what is your timeframe for buying, building, getting on the road, destinations like parks with electricity, boondocking in the desert, and on and on. You refused to provide anything to us.


Over time, you are just swinging your dick around trying to show us how big it is and how much you know about all this esoteric commercial vehicle crap. Who the foaak cares? Nearly 90% of this BS has nothing to do with the goal of you buying a bus.


Most of us think you are a big fat oaf, drive a big diesel pickup, and have a tiny dick. So why don't you swing it in some other forum and let us rub ours in peace. Like Van knows, boulders kind of do their own thing, so go do it somewhere else.


To dear Phil, I try to be polite and not sure how many rules I busted but how about giving a poor slob a break. I am sure there are a few here busting a gut about now. thanks don


btw - i got the Shurflo water pump fixed. Not proud it is a small thing swinging but at least I got one and it works.

[dtcerrato]

@ windy

[Iceni John]

BK, when you get a chance you should buy a Pro-Link scanner if you have a DDEC engine, and the Detroit DDEC Troubleshooting Manual.   Instead of guessing, those two will save you countless hours and frustration.   The cheapest way to buy a Pro-Link for DDEC is to buy a Pro-Link for 1990s GM cars, throw away the cartridge (unless you still have a 1990s GM car!), and buy the appropriate DDEC cartridge separately.   You can then get what you need for not much over $200 if you're lucky, instead of a lot more for a DDEC-ready Pro-Link.   And why a Pro-Link for old GM cars?   They use the same expensive 12-pin adaptor that DDEC uses which will cost you $60 if you buy it by itself, and NOBODY wants to buy Pro-Links for those cars!

John

[Busted Knuckle]

BK, when you get a chance you should buy a Pro-Link scanner if you have a DDEC engine, and the Detroit DDEC Troubleshooting Manual.   Instead of guessing, those two will save you countless hours and frustration.   The cheapest way to buy a Pro-Link for DDEC is to buy a Pro-Link for 1990s GM cars, throw away the cartridge (unless you still have a 1990s GM car!), and buy the appropriate DDEC cartridge separately.   You can then get what you need for not much over $200 if you're lucky, instead of a lot more for a DDEC-ready Pro-Link.   And why a Pro-Link for old GM cars?   They use the same expensive 12-pin adaptor that DDEC uses which will cost you $60 if you buy it by itself, and NOBODY wants to buy Pro-Links for those cars!

John

Thanks John I never knew about that. I had a Pro-link way back in the day when I had the "Hot Rod Setra" with the DDEC 8V92. (which BTW SOMEGUY 60 Series was NOT the first engines to use electronic injectors as the DDEC 2 strokes had them first!)
But when we upgraded to the newer Setra S417's with their complex system that the Pro-link wasn't compatible with, the Pro-link got put in a drawer in a file cabinet in the shop office and ended up growing legs as it was never used and who knows when it took a hike to a home that would use it.
I'll check around for the older gm set up.
  BK 

[someguy]

Apparently someone doesn't understand the meaning of the phrase "one of the earliest".  Notice I didn't write "the first".

I think the 8V92 came out with an early version of DDEC in about 1985.   It used electronically controlled injectors.  But I don't think they shipped very many and I think they were problematic.   I think a lot of those engines were converted to mechanical injection.

So yes, the 8V92 had electronic injection before the S60 (1987?).   But the S60 was the engine that mainstreamed electronic injection control.  If you want to talk about mainstream engines with electronic unit injectors, the S60 was first.  If you want to talk about engines with electronic unit injection in small volumes that had issues, that would be the early DDEC 8V92.

[luvrbus]

Keep looking the Pro/Link 9000 are out there,I paid Tom a 100 bucks for this one with the case, manuals.cables and 6 different cartages,I didn't need it but bought sight unseen heck of a buy looks new. I have one of the Kent/Moore for a DDEC l plus others (3) and the programming software on a laptop,all I wanted was the Allison 700 cartage those are getting exspensive to buy now   

[luvrbus]

Apparently someone doesn't understand the meaning of the phrase "one of the earliest".  Notice I didn't write "the first".

I think the 8V92 came out with an early version of DDEC in about 1985.   It used electronically controlled injectors.  But I don't think they shipped very many and I think they were problematic.   I think a lot of those engines were converted to mechanical injection.

So yes, the 8V92 had electronic injection before the S60 (1987?).   But the S60 was the engine that mainstreamed electronic injection control.  If you want to talk about mainstream engines with electronic unit injectors, the S60 was first.  If you want to talk about engines with electronic unit injection in small volumes that had issues, that would be the early DDEC 8V92.

They got that straighten out when DD changed manufactures and went to Motorola for the ECM they changed cams in 92 series and firing order too,you could change the DDEC l and early DDEC ll 8v92's back to mechanical without changing cams but that went away lol but people still try,then I get stuck with pulling the heads to change cams.I personly think the DDEC 92 is a better engine than the mechanical 92 engine and could never understand why they would change