Setup to reach 9.66 MPG at 65 MPH ?

[someguy]

Look what I stumbled across, a video of a C13/ZF in a J4500.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR8FpJ2zI-o

Doesn't seem jerky to me.

Bonus pack, there is a second one.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arywpn6IsPc

"I remember falling asleep to that sweet Detroit turbo in a comfortable seat while cruising on the freeway on a field trip to DC  In the morning I just had to ask the driver what the bus%u2019 model was and what engine it was equipped with"   Sounds like a happy passenger.


I wish he had it out on a mountain pass.

And another one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV3gL3z2fH0

[lostagain]

Someguy, I have driven more than one ZF, and more than one Allison, and many other engine/transmission combinations in buses and trucks.

[lostagain]

I am trying to help you with real life driving experience, but you seem to know it all... But you don't listen very well...

[someguy]

This isn't my first rodeo with truck stuff.  If it doesn't shift well, I'll fix it.  It's a pretty simple concept.  It shifts exactly how one would double clutch a 10 speed.  The only thing that will cause jerkiness is if the clutch is engaging wrong.  And I actually rode in a Volvo that I thought had an iShift but I've come to find out had a Meritor  Freedomline in it. Very smooth.

I have no idea what was wrong with your unit, but there are lots out there that shifted well.  Volvo sold a lot of trucks with the Meritor Freedomline in it before the iShift came out.

Here is a VNL with the AS Tronic in it.  The driving starts at 4:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66n6DDjIiZA

And yes at 5:42 it starts out in 3rd gear.  As it should with no trailer.

[lostagain]

Good luck!

[Van]

I am trying to help you with real life driving experience, but you seem to know it all... But you don't listen very well...

No worries JC. You can lead a horse to water...  Only disappointment after all the advice he has received is that he ends up being another ASK0HOLIC which we have seen all to often in the past. Good luck!

[someguy]

You guys got a problem with newbies asking a bunch of questions ?

[6805eagleguy]

I am trying to help you with real life driving experience, but you seem to know it all... But you don't listen very well...

Pretty sure he's never replied to me...

[DoubleEagle]

You guys got a problem with newbies asking a bunch of questions ?

Nope, just one anonymous newbie who does not have a bus or indicate where he is located. Say, you're not some Russian spy sent in to disrupt busnuts by machine-gunning in questions, are you? Or are you working for Facebook and you want to do Bulletin Boards in? You need to have a better regard for the wisdom of others that have more miles on the road than you.

[buswarrior]

If "someguy" isn't a confederate of Gary's, driving up the google ads click statistics, then "someguy" better negotiate a cut of Gary's google cheque for driving the Board activity way up... !!!!

Taking the time to share quality information with someone who it turns out already has answers, and openly shrugs off experienced warnings... it is a bit rude.

How about some contributions of IDEAS, which contribute to the collective creativity? Asking us for ours and then being dismissive doesn't help anyone.

Copying all of us, doesn't advance the hobby?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[someguy]

Someguy, I have driven more than one ZF, and more than one Allison, and many other engine/transmission combinations in buses and trucks.

Lostagain, I sent you a PM.

[Jim Blackwood]

I'm a relative newbie here too but an old hand on other forums and I understand a bit of the etiquette. We've got a guy on one forum named Barrie. When Barrie has to loosen a bolt he asks how it's done and where to buy the best wrench for the job. When Barrie adds gas he wants to know if he should buy his paper towels at WalMart. We've gotten used to Barrie but it took some doing. OK that's all an exaggeration but I think it helps demonstrate the point. Forums are a social society with developed ways of conduct. If you don't bother to learn those ways it causes friction.

So, as mentioned, here's a guy (someguy) who is completely unknown even though he's been here since '06 maybe lurking. At least he registered that long ago. Is he a real person? We don't know. He could be an established member playing troll. It does happen. No name, no age, no location, no bus. Sounds like about 50, reveals specialized knowledge, acts like a know-it all. Not a great way to start out, but just about what you would get from a troll. Why? Well it sure drives the numbers up. So until I see some personal info provided that's going to be my opinion. Not that I mind particularly, I'm inclined to bait trolls just as a pastime. And overall running the numbers up is a good thing. Besides, this guy is raising issues that should concern us. It'd be good if he could do it in a less offensive manner, but hey, some people are just naturally offensive and can't help it. Doesn't necessarily make 'em bad people.

Jim

[TomC]

I was just on the Allison Transmission web site. And I see no mention anymore of the TC10. I don't believe it is being offered anymore. Good Luck, TomC

[luvrbus]

I was just on the Allison Transmission web site. And I see no mention anymore of the TC10. I don't believe it is being offered anymore. Good Luck, TomC

I saw a Waste Management 2020 Pete with one ,talking to a friend at Williams a new Allison 10 speed is in testing a fully automatic like the newer passenger cars and pickup's have     

[Dave5Cs]

Maybe he is an RV saleman or works selling ZF tranny's for commission.