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glass packs

Started by biff, January 03, 2020, 03:12:54 PM

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biff

You guys running glass packs do you like them?and how much more noise is it in the bus? and are you using 3 inch or 2.5 inch bore?I want to put them on a mc8 8v71n. :-\

chessie4905

We dont use glas packs. The padding will eventually deteoriate making it equivalent to straight through. Pluss the normal diesel soot accumulation will plug the holes to the packing . Generally resonators are used, if owner doesnt mind any additional noise generated.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

DoubleEagle

And don't forget that a 8V71 would have two 4" exhaust pipes. 2.5 or 3" would be crazy.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

chessie4905

Flowmaster makes some nice compact mufflers in one, two, and three chamber in 3 and 4 inch inlet and outlets. I used a 4 inch on a 6.2 diesel truck several years ago. Sweet sound. Their mufflers are made of substantial sheet steel, not the thin stuff used in traditional automotive mufflers.

https://www.holley.com/brands/flowmaster/products/exhaust/mufflers/street_chambered_mufflers/
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

dtcerrato

We have a pair of Stemco mufflers 3" really robust metal. I think they call it galvalume.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

chessie4905

I think Flowmaster sells as versions of their two chamber race mufflers which are lighter with thinner metal
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

TomC

Donaldson makes a really nice oval muffler with 5" in and out at the same end (M120131). It is rated for turbo engine, but will work on any. Puts out a nice tone, and is free flowing. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Ed Hackenbruch

 Don't remember the number but they also make one with 5" on each end.  I wanted to be able to put my tailpipe coming out on the side just behind the tire so that i could see it in my mirror.
Used to own a 1968 MCI 5A and a 1977 5C.

biff

THANKS For the response.Im looking hard at 2 flowmaster 50 delta flow. 8)

HB of CJ

Have you considered Federally approved spark arresters instead of a second muffler?  I suppose it would depend upon where exactly you want to go.

Jim Eh.

I have compiled a list of mufflers to use on (mostly) NA DD engines for bus application.
Not a complete list but follows the published mufflers for a DD NA engine with a few "aftermarket" alternatives. (The D13-1023 listed at the bottom is a Shuttleworth product, Canadian).

This list does not include any glass packs as I feel they are only a short term use item.

If you wish to select a Donaldson (or other brand) please google a crossover part#. Keep in mind some (or any) of these mufflers may be used on a turbo engine with varying results. A turbo'd engine requires even less sound attenuation so select accordingly. I make NO promises as to your choice from using this list to result in your desired result, just as a guide as to what is available. If there is no db rating or restriction info, it was not published for use nor tested with a DD 2 stroke engine. I made this list in a frame but the forums do not express the format correctly(7 columns).

NELSON MUFFLER #s             LIST FOR N.A. MOTORS  (X OVER LISTS FOUND ONLINE)

(STYLE 1 = END IN ON C / OTHER END OUT ON C)  (STYLE 2 = END IN OFFSET / OTHER END IN OFFSET)(STYLE 3 = END IN / SAME END OUT) (STYLE 4 END IN ON C / OTHER END OUT OFFSET)

(NOISE IN DECIBELS @ 50 FEET)(DIMENSIONS IN INCHES)(RESTRICTION IN "of HG @ ENGINE )
PART #   STYLE   OUTLETS   BODY SIZE   O.A.L.   NOISE   RESTRICTION
6-71 NA   SINGLE MUFFLER               
86115M   3   4.0 – 4.0   10X15 OVAL   26   79   3.7
                  
6V-71 NA   SINGLE MUFFLER               
86125M   2   4.0 – 4.0   10X15 OVAL   26   83   1.8
86543M   2   4.0 – 5.0   10X15 OVAL   27   82   2.3
                  
6V-71 NA   DUAL MUFFLERS               
86159M   2   3.0-3.0   8.3X11.5 OVAL   26   81   3.0
86512M   2   3.50-4.0   8.3X11.5 OVAL   28   82   1.2
86106M   2   3.50 – 3.50   8.3X11.5 OVAL   26   83   1.9
                  
8V-71 NA   DUAL MUFFLERS               
86512M   2   3.5 – 4.0   8.3X11.5 OVAL      83   1.8

Other mufflers (to fit) but NOT rated for DD 2 STROKE

86560M   1   4.0 – 4.0   8.9 RND   20
D13-0123   1   5.0 – 5.0   8.9 RND   23
86121M   3   5.0 – 5.0   10X15 OVAL   26
            
86144M *   1   4.0 – 4.0   9.0 RND   11.5
86145M *   1   5.0 – 5.0   9.0 RND   11.5
            

* = RESONATORS
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.