Seized wheel nuts...

[MagnoliaBus]

This week-end i tried to remove a front wheel....
Cleaned the exposed thread with a wire brush wheel on a small grinder. Then put some loose-nut.
With a CP7448 gun rated @  922 lbs of torque, nothing !
Tried a 3/4 breaker bar (Dewalt) with a 20 ton bottle jack... no more braker bar....

Any idea

[Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM]

Lug nuts can get very rusted on especially if you live up north where they use salt shakers on the roads.

You may have to use a Smoke Wrench to heat them up cherry red to break the rust to loosen them.

Or try using Kroil. Spray it on and leave it overnight and you may have success doing that.

Also, be sure you are turning the nuts in the correct direction. On some buses, on one of the sides of the bus there may be left-hand threads.  Some have an "L" on the end of the stud, but you can usually tell by looking at the threads.

Good Luck.

Gary

[buswarrior]

Good breaker bar the kind that slides on a solid rod, not the ones with the head on a pin, a 6 foot or longer one inch pipe that fits over the breaker bar.

Get a cast coupler to put on threaded end of the pipe to prevent distortion.

Keep leaning on it, they will go off like gunshots when they break free.

My kids got ours free the first time, out at 8 feet or so. It's all about leverage.

Overtorqued and left for a long time makes trouble.

You are on the right track with cleaning threads and putting the penetrating oil to them.

The torch is a last resort, and really needs to be considered destructive, with new fasteners on the agenda.

Look online for help in identifying if your studs have been damaged by overtorquing. A magnifying glass is helpful for tired eyes to see the threads closely.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[MagnoliaBus]

Good breaker bar the kind that slides on a solid rod, not the ones with the head on a pin, a 6 foot or longer one inch pipe that fits over the breaker bar.

Exactly, the bolt sheared in the threads portion.

[Raymond smith]

Would they be left hand thread if you were doing the left front wheel. Just a thought. Raymond

[MagnoliaBus]

Would they be left hand thread if you were doing the left front wheel. Just a thought. Raymond

Yes they are left & right thread on left & right side.

[luvrbus]

Buy a cheap torque multiplier 50 bucks on Amazon

[Ed Hackenbruch]

I would take a very close look at the lug nuts, the studs and the back of the wheels once i got them off.  I had to use a X-12 torque multiplier to get mi ne off and found that two of my steel wheels were cracked on the back side under the paint. New wheels, studs and nuts and nobody ever touched my wheels again but me. 

[MagnoliaBus]

While i'm at it, i might as well do some test.
So, i will try two things.
First, i will buy a cheap nut breaker on amazon like Cliffod said (the good thing is that it go deep for the dual).
Second, i have access to a 4X torque multiplier (Williams @ 2000 pounds, 1 inch drive output). For this one, i will need an extension for the dual and some kind of resting stand.

[bevans6]

The first time I took the driver's side wheels off my bus (left hand thread) I broke the 3/4" drive right off the torque multipler...  It took a Snap-On 1500 ft lb impact driver with a 1/2" air hose and my compressor turned up to 150 psi. 
And all new budd nuts, lug nuts all round.

[Fred Mc]

Just to be sure if the stud is stamped L you turn it counterclockwise to loosen it.

[chessie4905]

You turn it clockwise to loosen. Bass akwards from normal loosenig of a nut on a bolt. And on the R side or no mark, you turn it counterclockwise to loosen. Also, don't mix up the nuts from one side with the other, although they should have L marks on them like the studs.

[Van]

Just to be sure if the stud is stamped L you turn it counterclockwise to loosen it.

   Uh Oh!

[TomC]

When you do finally get the wheel off and the studs replaced, be sure to paint on Never Seize. I had the rear tires of my truck replaced after sitting for over 10 years. None of the nuts were a problem. Good Luck, TomC

[Jim Eh.]

Safety glasses are your best friend.