Master switch no power

luvrbus · April 29, 2019, 06:43:57 PM

You set the cruise for the desired speed through the ECM the former owner set it for fuel mileage and torque plus idiot drivers that is a easy change mine is set for 68 mph flip the switch and off you go to 68 mph.I changed all the switches and panels on my DL3 and it was the easiest wiring job I ever did on a bus the way it was arranged

Jcparmley · April 29, 2019, 06:54:59 PM

So I assume you bring the bus to a Detroit dealer and have them set the cruise value? What switches did you use? I would love to see a pic of your switch panel.

Quote from: luvrbus on April 29, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
You set the cruise for the desired speed through the ECM the former owner set it for fuel mileage and torque plus idiot drivers that is a easy change mine is set for 68 mph flip the switch and off you go to 68 mph.I changed all the switches and panels on my DL3 and it was the easiest wiring job I ever did on a bus the way it was arranged

luvrbus · April 29, 2019, 07:33:01 PM

I went back all original no changes except I added the clock and tach that wasn't there

Jim Blackwood · April 29, 2019, 08:28:50 PM

Do you mean to say that you can't just set the cruise speed while you are driving? That just seems... wrong.

Jim

luvrbus · April 30, 2019, 05:47:59 AM

You can set the cruise just like a automobile I just have mine preset for 68 mph and his probably preset for 58 mph the cruise on a bus are just good on the open interstate IMO anyways

buswarrior · April 30, 2019, 08:17:57 AM

Quote from: Jcparmley on April 29, 2019, 12:21:09 PM
MCI said these are the closest to my coach as they have.

Close??? You've been fed a line.

The schematics are assigned specifically according to unit number/serial number/VIN, depending on vintage. As changes were made on the line, the specific coach in which the change starts is noted on the schematic, thru to the last one.

Or via an index and figure number in the book.

There's no "close" about it.

It either is, or it isn't.

Has the world of MCI gone mad?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Jcparmley · April 30, 2019, 10:22:13 AM

I called MCI Parts and asked them what schematics were available for my model. I gave them my VIN and they said the schematics I downloaded are the only ones they had. They did not have any for my year. I have a 1996 and the shematics I have are for a 1997 -2003. Are you suggesting that MCI dosen't know what schematics are available?

Quote from: buswarrior on April 30, 2019, 08:17:57 AM
Close??? You've been fed a line.

The schematics are assigned specifically according to unit number/serial number/VIN, depending on vintage. As changes were made on the line, the specific coach in which the change starts is noted on the schematic, thru to the last one.

Or via an index and figure number in the book.

There's no "close" about it.

It either is, or it isn't.

Has the world of MCI gone mad?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

richard5933 · April 30, 2019, 10:31:44 AM

If MCI was anything like GM, there also were all the special orders and customer-specific options that never made it into the books. The GM wiring diagram books are pretty darn complete, but there are still many sections for my bus which are inaccurate.

I've asked Luke about this, and he said that changes were made on the production line that never made it to the books, and that certain buses were built to customer specs in ways not reflected in the books.

For my bus, I've had to pull wiring diagrams from other 'close' models/years to get a complete picture of the actual wiring.

luvrbus · April 30, 2019, 10:40:30 AM

MCI is feeding you BS my manual has 28 pages of schematics from 1993 to 1996 and early 1997 models (April),they had 3 options on engines and transmissions they have to have more schematics

Jim Blackwood · April 30, 2019, 11:16:36 AM

So you have the pages for '96 then? I'd gladly pay you to make copies and send them to me.

Jim

luvrbus · April 30, 2019, 11:38:46 AM

If I could figure out the scanning deal I could send them in a file

Jcparmley · April 30, 2019, 01:26:34 PM

I would love a copy of those as well.

Quote from: luvrbus on April 30, 2019, 11:38:46 AM
If I could figure out the scanning deal I could send them in a file

Jim Blackwood · April 30, 2019, 02:54:46 PM

Either way would be enormously better than the half-sheets I have in the manual from MCI. Probably half the wiring is missing. Kinda pointless to even look at it.

So yes, any thing I can do to persuade you to do this, and in the least bothersome way for you that is possible. Scanned digital, drop the book off at Kinko's with instructions, whatever you'd be willing to do. It'd be great to be able to follow along in the schematics when someone says, "look at thus and such wire."

Jim

luvrbus · April 30, 2019, 07:40:43 PM

We don't even have a office supply where I live it would need to be scanned it's 100 miles to Vegas to a Office Depot

richard5933 · May 01, 2019, 04:41:03 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on April 30, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
We don't even have a office supply where I live it would need to be scanned it's 100 miles to Vegas to a Office Depot

If you have a smartphone, you can get a pretty decent scan using Microsoft's Office Lens app. It's free and does a pretty good job if you have proper lighting. I've been using it for lots of things and mostly you can't tell it wasn't done on a scanner.