Irizar buses

[CrabbyMilton]

NEOPLAN USA was great until they decided that quality was no longer important.
They certainly had a wide range of buses in their lineup.

[luvrbus]

While I was in Vegas with my wife I noticed the VanHools all had one thing in common they all said out of service

[CrabbyMilton]

Maybe they put those "out of service" signs up to discourage the drunken gamblers from trying to board or flag down the first bus they see.
Or, they are broken.

[luvrbus]

LOL I was close to maintaince and training shop they were broken

[CrabbyMilton]

So what exactly is the problem with VAN-HOOL over here anyway?
They've been selling various models of buses for over 20 years so how long does it take to get it right?

[lvmci]

At G&R bus shop in LV, VanHools have a lot of air conditioning problems, over and above mechanical problems. lvmci...

[Jeremy]

Well the driverless idea for vehicles has a ways to go yet before people feel confident about them.
I'm not too crazy about the Chinese imports since I'm mostly a "Build it here" man. However, if a charter operator wants to buy such a product, then all the more power to them. But if it fails, I'll have to resist the urge to say I told you so.

No need for "I told you so"s. I'm not trying to tell anyone anything, just to point out that it ain't the 1950s anymore and there's a hell of a lot more going on in the world than just MCI, Prevost and Detroit Diesel. Stuff that happens in other countries is important, and new technologies are important, no matter how much of a short-termist "it'll never happen here" mindset you take. (And to make the point - I believe I'm right in saying that MCI, Prevost & DD themselves are no longer even American-owned any more)

Jeremy

[CrabbyMilton]

I do realize that it's not the 1950's but what does that have to do with desiring to build a product designed for America to be built in America? Sadly, we've done so much over the decades to chase business away then to attract them. Then you have the masses who don't care where their stuff comes from just so long as they get it and have no appreciation for history or heritage. True MCI, PREVOST and DETROIT DIESEL are not American based and that presents a spaghetti plate of who owns what. But I guess for better or worse, I have to put myself in the place of the often clueless masses and say it could be built from little green men from Mars and if it works that's fine. But why not build it here if possible?
Oh, CUMMINS is an American based company so is ALLISON.

[luvrbus]

That is true Jeremy but they have American parts not the off the wall European crap like the differentials,brakes and other components and our trade with Canada is different also hell they even build Fords and Chevy in Canada and MCI has a plant in the USA ,Vanhool will soon open a plant here to comply with the build America  for transit use.Don Laughlins Casnio here his VanHools give a lot of electrical trouble lol I like the VanHools they keep me busy.The difference you call MCI or Prevost for parts overnight you have parts call ABC for Vanhool it sometimes takes weeks.Anyone know what the base price of the Irizar is going to cost ? I bet it going to be well below the 600k of a MCI or Prevost the Vanhools are.i do know they will be made in Mexico because of our trade agreement with Mexico   

[lvmci]

No body home! Maybe they just wanted a Nevada address for a corporation address, lvmci...

[luvrbus]

That is the old BCI building isn't it ?

[lvmci]

Well they moved away to a different building, eliminated the INA, now it's Irizar company, but no room for buses out side, but 2 garage doors, lvmci...

[lvmci]

Clifford, the building is less than a mile south (past Orleans) from B&B on Arville st. A street called Business Center Way, tom...