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Jakes in a C3

Started by Nick Badame Refrig/ACC, May 21, 2007, 05:39:57 AM

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DrivingMissLazy

Brian, what a great idea and I had forgotten your writeup.
I would like to incorporate that in the Help section of this board so it does not get lost again. Any suggestions how to do it and then be able to find it?
Thanks, Richard

Quoteauthor=Brian Diehl link=topic=4242.msg38628#msg38628 date=1179768535]
While you didn't mention any tranny problems .... you may be interested in this old thread ...


http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=883.msg12267#msg12267
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JackConrad

Nick,
   From what I've seen of Telma retarders (on fire engines), our driveshafts are not long enough and not enough HEAVY framing adjacent to the driveshaft to take the torque produced by the Telma.  Jack
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Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

Quote from: Brian Diehl on May 21, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
While you didn't mention any tranny problems .... you may be interested in this old thread ...


http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=883.msg12267#msg12267

Hi Brian,
It seemed that when I downshifted, it sounded like I would be over reving the engine.
Maybe I was just unfamiluar with how to do that.
I'm going to keep reading that thread
Nick-
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DrivingMissLazy

Nick, I do not think it will downshift until a safe RPM is reached. I know that even if I pulled mine down to a lower gear it would not downshift until a certain speed was reached and that never had the engine over 21-2200 rpm.
Richard


Quote from: Nick Badame Refrig. Co. on May 21, 2007, 10:54:23 AM
Quote from: Brian Diehl on May 21, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
While you didn't mention any tranny problems .... you may be interested in this old thread ...


http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=883.msg12267#msg12267

Hi Brian,
It seemed that when I downshifted, it sounded like I would be over reving the engine.
Maybe I was just unfamiluar with how to do that.
I'm going to keep reading that thread
Nick-
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a good Reisling in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming:  WOO HOO, what a ride

luvrbus

Nick if you buy jakes from someone make sure they have 71-92A stamped on the housing on the top because that the ones that works on a 8v92 engine

prevost82

Nick ... Luke might be the closest one to install ... like many have said you need someone how know 2 strokes to set them up or they don't waork worth a dam

Sammy

Nick, check out this link - http://jakebrake.com/support/parts-and-service-literature.php?engine_mfr=3&engine_model=28&jacobs_product=25
Should have some answers to your questions.
Hope it helps.
Sammy  8)

Gary W

Nick
I found a set at a local truck wrecker, I got the high covers and all related parts for $800. That was three years ago. Try HB Industries they advertise them on their web site. Here is the link.

http://www.hbindustries.ws/

Gary

Brian Diehl

Quote from: DrivingMissLazy on May 21, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
Brian, what a great idea and I had forgotten your writeup.
I would like to incorporate that in the Help section of this board so it does not get lost again. Any suggestions how to do it and then be able to find it?
Thanks, Richard

How about copying my reply where I post the solution?  You could title it something like:  "Manual Torque Converter Lockup Modification"

Would that work?

Brian Diehl

Quote from: Nick Badame Refrig. Co. on May 21, 2007, 10:54:23 AM
Hi Brian,
It seemed that when I downshifted, it sounded like I would be over reving the engine.
Maybe I was just unfamiluar with how to do that.
I'm going to keep reading that thread
Nick-

One solutiont to the "How fast is my engine turning" question is something others have posted before.

Manually put your transmision in 1st.  Run the bus up to the govenor and make note of the speed.
Shift to 2nd and do the same.
Proceed through each gear noting the MPH when the motor stops speeding up. 
Once you have all the split points you will know at what maximum speed you can shift down into each gear.  This should give you the confidence you need to know if you are over speeding the engine or not.

Of course, do this all in a safe and courteous manner (not that you wouldn't). ;)

Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

Quote from: Gary W on May 21, 2007, 04:51:52 PM
Nick
I found a set at a local truck wrecker, I got the high covers and all related parts for $800. That was three years ago. Try HB Industries they advertise them on their web site. Here is the link.

http://www.hbindustries.ws/

Gary

Thanks for the link Gary!
Nick-
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niles500

As has been said most recently - TomC is a concientous and totally awesome poster of the facts - I would follow his instructions TO THE LETTER - As to the 2 stroke 8v92, Nick I probably outweigh you by 10k (GVW - 46k+) - Jakes on the 2 stroke 8v92 work fine - 2 speed Jakes on the 2 stroke 8v92 work twice as fine - maintaining your speed on a downgrade is as simple as flipping a switch - HTH - or more perfectly, Hope TomC's info helps -
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JerryH

Belfert:

I have Jakes on DD8V71 ... wouldn't want it any other way.
Coming down hills from State College, or I-40 from NC to TN ... love my Jakes.

Jerry H.

Quote from: belfert on May 21, 2007, 06:54:06 AM
I recall reading some posts about Jake brakes very recently and I thought someone (TomC maybe) saying that Jakes are not very effective on two stroke diesels.