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Four down supplemental braking up for discussion

Started by dtcerrato, October 18, 2018, 08:10:39 PM

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Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM

Quote from: eagle19952 on October 20, 2018, 09:38:09 AM
The Roadmaster air can be had often on Ebay for small $'s.
There isn't much that can wear out.

I still have my original Roadmaster air cylinder brake system that I installed on my Jeep and it is just like new.  It is about a year old and only used for about three trips. I would be interested in selling it for half of what a new one costs if anyone is interested. Send me a PM if interested.

Gary
1999 Prevost H3-45
Gary@BusConversionMagazine.com

Debo

I have about 5k miles with my NSA surge brake system now towing a Jeep Wrangler, and no hiccups yet. Simple and effective. Two of my favorite things.
1981 MCI MC9
Detroit 8V-71N
Spicer 4-Speed Manual
Outer Banks, NC (Kitty Hawk)

chessie4905

Check Craigslist or adhuntr. In time, one of what you want will come up for sale.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

dtcerrato

Gary, If I decide to go after the Roadmaster I'll contact you, thanks. We're in & out of the toad often so may try & hold out for a permanent setup w/o detaching/attaching. We really like the M&G, waiting for a response from them but don't think it'll work. The AF1 is a real nice set up, like the vacuum boost feature... This ought to land somewhere sooner or later. 
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

dtcerrato

Does anyone have experience with Smart Brake SB1015? It's the only supplemental dingy braking that can utilize any trailer brake controller & even offers their kit w/o their controller for a discount! What really interests me is the fact that we're already using our familiar controller & can do it at will besides being automatic. We use the Tekonsha Prodigy-have it in the bus & in the toad. Does anyone on the board have experience with Smart Brake SB1015?
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

dtcerrato

Ordered the M&G 2.0 supplemental braking system last night & saved some $$$$ for Black Monday sale. Cliff recommended M&G & for good reason. It's so nice to see domestic quality (brass & aluminum vs. plastic). The only modification between the bus & the toad is one single air line! Hope its what we expect - while on the subject of brakes, we pulled the back drums off to repack/replace bearing & seals. Some may remember when we had bad brake burn on a downhill on the Icefield parkway in Alberta, well the PS rear underneath brake block had a big piece break off of it and wedged into the ventilator holes in the drum. Glad we're putting brakes to the toad...
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

silversport

Quote from: Mike in GA on October 19, 2018, 06:44:28 AM
Love my Roadmaster. Great feeling of security working off the bus air.
Mike in GA
I agree with Mike, have had one for six years, one time I feel it help stop, not rear ending a car in a panic stop. I personally do not like surge braking, even though backing up four down is tough it is impossible with surge and going up hill. Murphy's law will take effect when you get yourself in the wrong spot and you will be unhooking. 
1962-GM-4106

silversport

Quote from: Mike in GA on October 19, 2018, 06:44:28 AM
Love my Roadmaster. Great feeling of security working off the bus air.
Mike in GA
I agree with Mike, have had one for six years, one time I feel it help stop, not rear ending a car in a panic stop. I personally do not like surge braking, even though backing up four down is tough it is impossible with surge and going up hill. Murphy's law will take effect when you get yourself in the wrong spot and you will be unhooking. 
Quote from: dtcerrato on October 19, 2018, 07:22:39 PM
Thanks for your responses! We are favoring the M&G unit but don't think it will fit our application. We find our vehicle in the M&G vehicle compatibility chart but in measuring under the hood - there is only 1/2" between the front of the master cylinder & the rear electrical distribution box. We contacted M&G & are awaiting their response. Also interested in the BrakeMaster System w Brake Away for RVs w Air Brakes - Proportional. Its half the price as AF1 & can be moved to another vehicle but does require uninstall & reinstall between towing & driving the toad. We like the AF1 but install is very involved & unit permanently attached to the brake pedal arm under the dash may clutter an already compact driver's cockpit for an 6'+ guy. Don't know where this will land but appreciate all the feedback.
We were in the same boat, really like M&G but would not fit, went with BrakeMaster System, Like the ease of use & size for storage.
 
1962-GM-4106

dtcerrato

The standard M&G (unit between the master cylinder & vacuum booster) wouldn't fit our Jeep either. We went with the M&G 2.0 air cylinder unit. Like the fact that the only thing through the fire wall is a tiny pull cable, everything is under the hood.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

luvrbus

Quote from: dtcerrato on November 24, 2018, 04:14:31 AM
The standard M&G (unit between the master cylinder & vacuum booster) wouldn't fit our Jeep either. We went with the M&G 2.0 air cylinder unit. Like the fact that the only thing through the fire wall is a tiny pull cable, everything is under the hood.

Let us know how it works out I have a the older model and I am sure when we buy a new tow vehicle it not going to interchange and I want to stay with M&G if possible
Life is short drink the good wine first

Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM

I too, love my Roadmaster Instabrake and Tow Defender.  I toured their factory and they definitely make a very high quality product.  Solid bars vs hollow is one differentiation between them and their competitors.

http://roadmasterinc.com/

Gary
1999 Prevost H3-45
Gary@BusConversionMagazine.com


dtcerrato

Got it for less than that with the air line install kit - Black sale deal.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

chessie4905

It's nice you lucked out on a sale deal. You don't see systems like that on sale.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

sixtyseven

Quote from: luvrbus on November 24, 2018, 06:37:08 AM


I have a the older model and I am sure when we buy a new tow vehicle it not going to interchange and I want to stay with M&G if possible

If you look on their website they list what models fit what vehicles so you can tell if your old one will work. also I think you can trade in your old one to save $ 
Joe 
Oregon
1985  Prevost  8V92TA   HT740