F250 toad--too much??

[Jim Blackwood]

I used to flat tow a Samurai behind our 32' S&S but then began loading it on my flatbed trailer instead, and liked that much better. No need to unhitch to back up, and no worries about the transmission. Once on a flat tow I had neglected to shift the T-case into neutral, noticed it at the first stop. Didn't seem to hurt anything, I just got lucky. In my opinion the lighter the toad is the better, and if it can be small enough to find a way to carry it instead of putting more tires on the ground, better yet. Still working on that one.

Jim

[Branderson]

Mine is 6 spd manual transmission, but the 4wd is electronic switch on the dash....flat towable??

This is what it says on the website but I wasn't sure which engine you have

•Vehicle can be flat towed if it contains a Manual Transfer Case. Follow procedures in Owner's Manual to flat tow correctly. If vehicle has an Electronic Transfer Case then it will require A Drive Shaft Coupling (Disconnect) to tow. Remco Industries no longer sells the Drive Shaft Coupling. If interested in a Drive Shaft Coupling, please contact Just for Towing (http://www.swdriveline.com) or David at Drive Shaft King (800-442-6329).

http://www.remcotowing.com/Towing/Store.php


I personally wouldn't want to tow that big of a vehicle.  Honda CRVs are good to tow but you have to make sure it's towable.  They were stupid and the new ones aren't flat towable anymore. 

[chessie4905]

https://rvibrake.com/pages/flat-towing-law

[luvrbus]

M&G are about the only manufacture for supplemental brakes that won't try to convince you they are required by law lol that is why i purchased a M&G system   

[Geoff]

I have thought about making a toad braking system out of a 3030 brake chamber for towing my service truck.  Just haven't got around to it yet.  I know someone on this Board made one and said it worked great.  Then people started yacking about liability.

[luvrbus]

I have thought about making a toad braking system out of a 3030 brake chamber for towing my service truck.  Just haven't got around to it yet.  I know someone on this Board made one and said it worked great.  Then people started yacking about liability.

That should work a 30/30 maybe a little over kill though

[buswarrior]

Yeah, be careful, a 30/30 has a lot of power...

Air pressure times 30 is the pounds to the brake pedal, and to what you mount it to...

You can break something.

A regulator would be a handy addition to the design?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[chessie4905]

I recall you can get one already setup to do this. Smaller chamber, maybe 10 to 15. I'll see if I can still find it.Here:

https://www.demco-products.com/rv-towing/supplemental-brakes/air-force-one/
And here:

http://www.usgear.cc/unified_tow_brake.htm

[Geoff]

Whatever size air brake chambers you use it is a matter of air regulation/pressure to have it working right.  On my service truck it has a brake hydraulic booster that would not be running, so it takes a lot of force to apply the brakes.

I know one company that sells a Hyd pump to work with the toad braking system, but they are $$$$$$.

[chessie4905]

Just adjust the air pressure to the toad down till the tires stop smoking.lol

[luvrbus]

Whatever size air brake chambers you use it is a matter of air regulation/pressure to have it working right.  On my service truck it has a brake hydraulic booster that would not be running, so it takes a lot of force to apply the brakes.

I know one company that sells a Hyd pump to work with the toad braking system, but they are $$$$$$.

My M&G the air pod goes between the booster and the master cylinder taking the booster out of the circuit so there is stress on anything
   

[chessie4905]

 http://www.hitchsource.com/mg-car-braking-systems-p-32964.html?page=all

[oltrunt]

Nothing wrong with a DIY toad brake system but from the design aspect it is hard to design the wheel lock up action required should the toad get loose while maintaining  modulated pressure for normal braking.  Jack

[Geoff]

Nothing wrong with a DIY toad brake system but from the design aspect it is hard to design the wheel lock up action required should the toad get loose while maintaining  modulated pressure for normal braking.  Jack

Yes there is.  The parking brake chamber gets activated when it's air line is ripped off.

[eagle19952]

trailer air brake handle