diesel priming device Detroit
 

diesel priming device Detroit

Started by KevinHornbuckle, August 09, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

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KevinHornbuckle





This works well and is convenient. I put a dust boot over the male fitting when not in use.

The V configuration is so that you can operate it from the side or rear of the coach.

The needle valve allows you to slowly diminish the aux fuel supply as your lift pump starts sucking.

There is a port for a pressure guage if you need to pressurize the fuel system in order to find a leak or verify the right pressure.

Priming requires that your system not be sucking air.

The parts, excluding the sprayer, were about $40.

buswarrior

Most excellent!

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

dtcerrato

We have a conventional 12 vdc automotive fuel pump inline between the primary & secondary fuel filters on our IL 671. If priming is needed we flip the switch from driver's seat & the soon as the pump pulsing quiets down the whole system is primed. Electric fuel pump sets idle in line & the fuel flows through it during normal operation. It has bailed us out a few times.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

chessie4905

I installed an electric pump in mine. I'll put a switch with indicator light in engine compartment.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

KevinHornbuckle

The electric pump itself needs to be primed. If your tank runs out of fuel, what is the fuel source? I think there are advantags to being able to run your engine from an external fuel supply - of known quality.

luvrbus

The Davco 380 Fuel Pro processors are getting so cheap at truck wrecking yards 25 to 50 bucks ea it's not worth worrying with filters and a priming system any longer  IMO
Life is short drink the good wine first

DoubleEagle

Quote from: luvrbus on August 10, 2018, 06:14:06 AM
The Davco 380 Fuel Pro processors are getting so cheap at truck wrecking yards 25 to 50 bucks ea it's not worth worrying with filters and a priming system any longer  IMO

I'll second that. With the fuel processor you can run totally out of fuel in the tank, but if you pour some in the top bowl you are good for a few miles. (Field tested in 1997).  :-[
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

chessie4905

GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

windtrader

QuoteDavco 380 Fuel Pro processor
Sounds interesting. Does one of these replace the existing fuel filter system? What the schedule for replacing and draining the water, less labor and time than traditional fuel filter change?
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

DoubleEagle

Quote from: windtrader on August 10, 2018, 07:20:29 AM
Sounds interesting. Does one of these replace the existing fuel filter system? What the schedule for replacing and draining the water, less labor and time than traditional fuel filter change?

The MCI data sheet covers that. It replaces both the primary and secondary filters, and you can drain any perceived water as often as you like with the engine not running. It's not only quicker and easier to change the filter, it's also cheaper than one spin-on. There are different models, depending on whether you want a heater for cold weather operation or not.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

windtrader

On an 8v71 block, the fuel filters are mounted on the side near the front(pulley) side. Any idea how much modding is required to swap this in? Would hoses need to be replaced? Where to mount?
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

lostagain

Meanwhile, I still use the stock primary/secondary spin on filters on my 6V92TA. Never gives any trouble. Replace them once a year. 10 minute job.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

lostagain

All the new buses and trucks now have this new filter system. I can see the advantage in a fleet. Easier to monitor, keep track of, and service. But in my bus the old system works good. Carry spares buried deep in the far corner of a baggage bin (never needed them on the road, but if I didn't carry them I would...). Plus there isn't room to mount a Davco anywhere in my engine compartment.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

DoubleEagle

Quote from: windtrader on August 10, 2018, 07:34:00 AM
On an 8v71 block, the fuel filters are mounted on the side near the front(pulley) side. Any idea how much modding is required to swap this in? Would hoses need to be replaced? Where to mount?

I tried to attach two pictures of it on my 1975 Eagle with the 8V71, but the files are too big. Things are different on the MCI setup, but the engine is the same. The fuel line from the tank comes into the processor on one side, and a short line goes from the other side to the fuel pump. Then the output line splits to go to both heads. You can probably mount the processor anywhere it will fit, as long as the bowl is higher than the fuel pump. I fashioned a angle iron bracket to mount it on, but I don't remember just what it was bolted to. It makes life simpler fuel wise.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

luvrbus

The Davco just needs to be mounted higher than the full level of the tank they don't need to be in the engine compartment either,there are 2 Vanhools here they are mounted at the tank so the drivers can check the level when fueling
Life is short drink the good wine first