Rant

Geoff · June 02, 2018, 06:44:05 PM

Who would:
1) run a 30 amp RV plug circuit with a flexible plastic line (as per outdoor code) and #6 stranded copper lines inside a bus to a dedicated 30 amp RV outlet that feeds a $3,000 Sun Frost refrigerator that converts the power to 12v DC ?
2) who would then put a GFI circuit (normal GFI outlet plug in) in an almost unaccessible place in the middle of the bay before it gets to the 30 amp breaker switch that feeds the refrigerator 120v RV 30 amp outlet?
3) you tell me.

windtrader · June 02, 2018, 07:04:27 PM

Geoff,
Sounds like you needed to draw out your design on paper first. lol

DoubleEagle · June 02, 2018, 07:21:16 PM

Quote from: Geoff on June 02, 2018, 06:44:05 PM
Who would:
1) run a 30 amp RV plug circuit with a flexible plastic line (as per outdoor code) and #6 stranded copper lines inside a bus to a dedicated 30 amp RV outlet that feeds a $3,000 Sun Frost refrigerator that converts the power to 12v DC ?
2) who would then put a GFI circuit (normal GFI outlet plug in) in an almost unaccessible place in the middle of the bay before it gets to the 30 amp breaker switch that feeds the refrigerator 120v RV 30 amp outlet?
3) you tell me.

Easy, only the previous owner would do that!

DominicM · June 02, 2018, 07:52:13 PM

Someone with a sick sense of humor

DominicM · June 03, 2018, 04:15:09 AM

Geoff,
I can only think of one person that would put a GFCI in an un accessible area, that would be the same person that thought all 12V wiring =/- should be the same yellow wire. That guy does have one sick sense of humor.

Geoff · June 03, 2018, 05:46:50 AM

I didn't do it, the P.O. did, among some other wiring mistakes. But not all yellow wire.

bevans6 · June 03, 2018, 06:15:56 AM

It strikes me that along with being in the top 10% of drivers all men think they know how to do electrical wiring. My conversion was started by a high school shop teacher. The first thing I did, even before the first trip, was rip out all of his electrical wiring and start over. It isn't perfectly to code, but it's safe and it works.

luvrbus · June 03, 2018, 06:27:59 AM

Is the high dollar SunFrost toast if so that is a shame it's the best fridge on the market for a rv

buswarrior · June 03, 2018, 06:48:06 AM

Rule #1 for a busnut:

In all things, Beware the Previous Owner, and their crew.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Geoff · June 03, 2018, 06:51:58 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on June 03, 2018, 06:27:59 AM
Is the high dollar SunFrost toast if so that is a shame it's the best fridge on the market for a rv

Yes, the Sunfrost is DOA. It has an internal R134a leak which Stop Leak couldn't slow down. The way those refers are made with super thick insulation and internal cooling lines you would have to destroy the refer to find the leak. If anyone wants to give it a shot to repair it is still whole. All I'm going to do is save the 12v pump to build a quiet air compressor and throw the rest in the dumpster.

luvrbus · June 03, 2018, 07:00:30 AM

Someone probably put a screw in the wrong place that is some heavy copper lines they use,aren't they guaranteed for life on a line breaking inside the housing ? they were at 1 time

Geoff · June 03, 2018, 07:15:52 AM

There are no screws going into the sides of the refer. I called Sunfrost and they told me the unit was not repairable, but what do they know? If you could pinpoint the leak you could patch it with the least damage but there is no indication of a leak anywhere. The owner is replacing it with an apartment size refrigerator.

luvrbus · June 03, 2018, 07:55:14 AM

I guess he has changed his policy now, the owner of Sunfrost is a total @$# IMO I don't deal with him anymore

windtrader · June 03, 2018, 12:01:14 PM

Important as a buyer of a converted coach to put on the watch list. So many variables in any converted coach to be aware of. These things are truly a house and car. A more complicated house to boot as it has additional electrical source system(s). Plus a bus is not a car, so at least different if not more simple or more complex.

Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM · June 03, 2018, 03:55:33 PM

I have a Sun Frost refer in my Eagle and love it. Last week I just ran a new 12 AWG wire directly to my batteries because I had too much of a power loss due to a long run with inadequate wiring before and it would start to shake, rattle, and roll after being unplugged from shore power for about an hour because it was only getting about 8V when my house batteries were at 12V and it does not like low voltage. Now it runs like a champ.

The good thing about these units is you can practically run them all week on one 6V battery because they are insulated so well as noted above. (maybe a bit of an exaggeration :-) ) I met the creator of these units, Larry and he is a very interesting very smart guy. It is really too bad he quit making these as they are still one of the best units out there IMHO. Thankfully he still has some repair parts in stock if you need them.