Charging System Fluctuates
 

Charging System Fluctuates

Started by Fred Mc, April 27, 2018, 08:56:51 PM

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Fred Mc

Last fall, after the voltage regulator failed I got a replacement circuit board from Luke for my GM PD4106(12v)

Now, the alternator appears to be charging intermittently(like it switches  every second or two) So it goes from battery voltage of 13.5 to 15v or so.If you turn on the headlights you can see the lights alternately go bright then dimmer every second or so.

Any suggestions on what to look for.

Thx
Fred

chessie4905

Is this at idle or at speed? With an electrical load? Still does it with blowers on? Are batteries fully charged? Make sure connections at batterys are clean and tight. Same at Alternator.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

buswarrior

Yup, x2, confirm the batteries are sound.

Cheap load tester is a busnut's good friend, multimeter is not the tool for deciding if batteries are sound.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

PNWorBUST72

Whats a decent load tester on a budget?
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida

bobofthenorth

+1 on checking the connections, particularly anything you touched while changing the regulator.  And don't neglect the grounds - in fact my money would be on a bad ground.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
Used to be 1981 Prevost 8-92, 10 spd
Currently busless (and not looking)

The last thing I would ever want to do is hurt you.
Its the last thing but its still on the list.

TomC

My alternator does that too-even with new digital regulator, new batteries, etc.
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

chessie4905

A decent load tester on a budget is the underfloor blower motors. Those suckers can load the system quite well.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

buswarrior

Old school automotive tester.

Amazon for example:  $32 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015EEWURW?ref_=Oct_CARAsinC_15707371_3

Never guess whether a battery is good or not again.

Not suitable for Nasa grade OCD, but good enough for a "normal" busnut?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

eagle19952

Quote from: buswarrior on April 28, 2018, 10:12:31 AM
Old school automotive tester.

Amazon for example:  $32 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015EEWURW?ref_=Oct_CARAsinC_15707371_3

Never guess whether a battery is good or not again.

Not suitable for Nasa grade OCD, but good enough for a "normal" busnut?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

chessie4905

That works good for car batteries, but you need more of a load than that can produce. Here is some info on other items that will work you may already have.

https://www.homepower.com/articles/solar-electricity/equipment-products/load-testing-batteries-without-load-tester
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

eagle19952





it isn't the load, it's the duration of the load that matters.

you can hold the load longer than the suggested.
and get an answer that will tell the tale.
i seriously doubt that the blower motors draw 100 amps running.

Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

HB of CJ

Low possibility, but might it be a continuously tripping and immediately resetting automatic resetting circuit breaker?  Headlights or tail lights comes to mind.   You may or may not hear it during driving depending where it physically is.

chessie4905

Blower motors, defroster motors and headlights all on will get the job done, while you check the voltage at batteries. Done with automobiles for years. Now they use electronic testers to check condition of batteries.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Fred Mc

"Low possibility, but might it be a continuously tripping and immediately resetting automatic resetting circuit breaker?  Headlights or tail lights comes to mind.   You may or may not hear it during driving depending where it physically is."
It may well have always been like that and I never noticed it before. I think Tom C mentioned that his bus does the same thing. I recently added a voltmeter to my dash and that is where I first noticed the fluctuation. And because the bus is undercover I could see the effect on the headlights. I almost NEVER drive at night so wouldn't have noticed that.

chessie4905

A constantly resetting circuit breaker can be detected with an ir gun, another reason to have one of these babies. Btw, on sale at HF now, $17.99.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central