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MCI8 Door Lock Installation

Started by PNWorBUST72, February 25, 2018, 11:06:21 AM

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chessie4905

Our 1948 ACF Brill, the door was opened and closed by an air cylinder. You could also turn off the air to use it manually.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

PNWorBUST72

So the hunt for the emergency release begins...

I traced two red air lines from the emergency switch up in the driver compartment to the solenoid looking thing in the spare tire area.  But nothing to engage the solenoid or anything.

I looked in the elect5rical box under the driver side window, I didnt see any sort of "choke" type device, I know what you are talking about, I just cant find it.

Now the other picture is what I THINK is the interior portion of the outside button you press to unlock the airlocks.  It appears that this bus was in some sort of crash and that might be why they replaced the fron end with this fiberglass shell.  When that happened, they just never replaced the exterior button but I can see the hole through the frame.

Any idea on where I can find a replacement?
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida

PNWorBUST72

So I tried to rig something up today but nada, looks like a need the plunger.  I got the part number, where do we look for parts for these things?  :(
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida

buswarrior

Wrecking yard, or a busnut who has removed the stock door opener and still has the parts kicking around.

Make your own? It's just a rod and a spring?

That is a part that would last the life of the bus, i'd be shocked if they exist on a shelf!

Go back to adjusting the door linkage so the door will not accidentally click over centre when closed from outside, but the handle can be pushed hard from inside to lock closed. Then install the locking handle of your choice?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior



Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

Jim Eh.

Funny, the picture of the "solenoid" almost looks like it is a speed actuated control. Did MCI ever use such a thing or perhaps an aftermarket affair?
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

chessie4905

GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

PNWorBUST72

MCI had a plunger assembly for $23, not my bus but for $23 I'll give it a go.

Fred Hobe information is all disconnected.

Who is Luke?

Is there a way to engage/disengage that solenoid to release the door from the outside?  How can I check to see if it even works?
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida

buswarrior

What is disconnected with Fred Hobe's info? 6 pages here?

http://www.coachconversioncentral.com/fredhobe.htm

There was no solenoid in a stock MC8 door mechanism. straight mechanical pneumatic analog system.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

buswarrior

Well, rats!

The bits on installing a door latch using tractor trailer door parts isn't there anymore?

not
happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

richard5933

Luke is at US Coach in NJ. One of the best resources and supporters of the hobby. Great selection of parts, many NOS, at reasonable prices.

He can be reached at 856-794-3104
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

PNWorBUST72

Thanks Richard, I'll call them in the AM.

Fred's email bounces back and the phone number listed isn't he any more...I spoke to a nice lady today about it.  :(

So the only way to open the door is using the plunger, no solenoid to open it?
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida

scott332

I rigged up a linear actuator and a steel cable to pull the release lever.  My dad put together a remote Bluetooth control board to activate it, and I can open the door with my cellphone or tablet.  I can also control some lights like the porch light and entrance lights with it.  I was tired of having to unlock the padlock on the front door release button.   
1992 MCI MC-12
1956 GMC PD4501-805

PNWorBUST72

US Coach is looking for a Plunger Assembly now...

Scot - Can you give some more detail there, I love the idea.
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida

Geoff

I didn't read all the posts, but a lot of people use the Bargman RV door latch.
Geoff
'82 RTS AZ

PNWorBUST72

Ok so I found a plunger assembly but I am not sure its going to fit.

Remember my coach has this stupid fiberglass front end and I THINK they put it right over the original metal so it"looks" much thicker through that hole for the plunger.  But once I cut it out, I am stuck.

Also, I still can't get that emergency red handled solenoid working, any thoughts there?  How is it supposed to work?  Do I have to be running with a certain air pressure or anything?  Key on?

Bus warrior - Any guides on how to adjust that door handle like your talking about?
1978 MCI-8 Crusader - First Conversion!
Jacksonville Florida