mci studs for alum rims

[jeffacc]

 I am looking for anyone who has the part numbers for 1983 MC9 with hub mounted rims I need the part #s for longer studs, lug nuts,and inner nuts and lock washers. I want to get my aluminum rims installed Tried MCI and get different #s everytime  need to have a tried and true part numbers PS. on the drive I will have steel inner and alum outer. Thanks Jeff

[JackConrad]

Are you sure your wheels are hub piloted? I thought they were still using stud piloted in '83. Do you have an threaded "inner nut" that hold the inside dual on? Hub piloted wheels use one nut with a washer to hold both wheels on.  Jack

[buswarrior]

MCI, and the rest did/will install whichever wheel/rim style the original owner specifies.

My 1975 MC8 has hub piloted, my 1975 MC8 parts bus, within 100 serial numbers, has stud piloted.

GM owners will report similiar results.

As long as the owner follows proper mounting and retorquing procedures, either is fine.

Stud pilot are more prone to problems if proper procedures are not followed, ie: loose inner fasteners that the driver can't find on a pre-trip

happy coaching!
buswarrior

[jeffacc]

Yes  Jack without question they are hub piloted rims this seems to be the problem there must be someone else who went through this. This is getting to be a real bummer have the rims but no way to bolt them on all I can do is grin and bear it, and chaulk it up to another big bus adventure.    Jeff

[Tom Y]

Jeff, I bought studs for my 80 MCI 5C.  I bought  after market studs from a truck shop. I can get the #s I used if you wish.  I also have / had a list from MCI that I maybe could fax to you. Let me know if I can help.  Tom Y

[buswarrior]

Hello Jeff.

Just order some studs from MCI and I think you'll be fine. I have never had a problem with MCI Parts folks, but then I BUY something everytime I talk with them.

If they are wrong, they'll take 'em back and replace 'em with the right stuff.

If you just use them for part numbers and don't buy anything... well, I'd give you the run around too.

Or if you prefer, call Luke at US Coach 888-262-2434 and he or his staff will get it out to you that day.

Busnuts shouldn't screw around with suppliers' time. Show some respect, we represent very little income for effort expended on their behalf.

We all have a responsibility to not screw up the goodwill toward our hobby!

happy coaching!
buswarrior

[NJT 5573]

Jeff, they are hard to find by application. However if you knock one out with a hammer and know how much longer you need most large truck shops and parts suppliers can pull them off the shelf. Just tell them what you want and not what it fits. Euclid is one after market stud  that I have used in the past.

[jeffacc]

Buswarrior
     I have orderd one set already they were wrong even gave them the vin # so I did not waste there time. return ship was not cheap just trying to avoid another expensive mistake.   
                                                                   Jeff
                                                       

[TomC]

If you are trying to change from steel rims to aluminum rims, if you are going with only aluminum on the outside, you can use your exsisting studs as long as you have at least 6 threads exposed beyond the nut.  If not, you'll have to install longer.  The best is to knock out the stud and get it the appropriate length longer from a truck supply house.  Most of the running gear on a bus is the same as on big rig trucks. 
Hub piloted wheels use longer, larger in diameter studs than the ball nut piloted wheel with an inner and outer nut.  Good Luck, TomC

[Ednj]

  I need the part #s for longer studs, lug nuts,and inner nuts and lock washers.  Thanks Jeff

Jeff, you say yourself "INNER NUTS".
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Hub piloted wheels use one nut with a washer to hold both wheels on.  Jack
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I think Jack got it right, and you are putting hub piloted wheels on a stud piloted application.

[Tom Y]

Jeff, Did you get the fax I sent? I forgot to put your name on it. Here is a pic of Hub pilot studs and Stud pilot  stud  and nuts to show the difference.  Hope this helps.  Tom Y

[jeffacc]

Hi Tom
Thanks for the fax it cleared up the confusion on why the part #s got messed up the first time. The question of what kind of rims they are was never in question they are hub mount. Thanks for all the help from every one.

                                Thankyou Jeff

[Tom Y]

Jeff, Did you see the note in the middle of the page about MCI 9 studs?  I bought  Euclid studs. 8987 for the rear at 6.38 each, 6035 for the front at 3.47 each, and 6000A nuts at 1.45 each. My 5C had stud mount and I changed to Hub. I got a Euclid book from a local truck shop and bought the size that worked for me. They may be longer than I needed, but the best I could find.  Tom Y

[NJT5047]

NJT used hub piloted wheels on 83s.   Ask either Luke or MCI for and NJT MC9 studs.  you'll get the correct parts.  They would be designed for a steel inner and alcoa outer.   
The steer and tag studs are also longer for alloy wheels, when compared to steel wheel studs. 
Remember that you gotta have stud threads all the way through the lugnut.
Are all of your lugs RH?  If not, they will be if you get replacement NJT studs. 
What was that "inner nut" and "lock washers" about?  As has been stated, hub piloted wheels don't have inner lugnuts. 
The pix that Tom posted shows a stud-piloted assembly in the center...the hub pilot lugs are located at the right side of the pix.
Sorry if this seems redundant, but this subject is easy to screw up. 
Post a photo of your drive axle lugs and the board will make a quick ID of your wheel design.
JR

[jeffacc]

 Hi Tom
Yes I seen the note it is easy to see the confusion and thanks for the info for the part #s I will look into it thank you so much for your time and effort.

JR
The nuts and washers I was referring about was the nuts and washers that hold the stud in thanks for your info.

                                                  Jeff