1973 05 Eagle Electrical question

[Gary LaBombard]

Hey guys,
I am retracing my electrical system I installed new 12 years ago and have not used since.  My memory is giving me a fit and I need some advise if possible.  I am enclosing a partial schematic of my Brake switch (I think) and my Brake Relay (I think).  I had relocated new switches etc. from the original location per drawing.  Now my question:

In the photo I enclosed,  the two round connectors on the left are??  Switches or Relays?  the two switches on the right are Switches or relays?  this is so I can rewire it correctly as required.  Note: I am not using the skinner valve in schematic.  Only the brake connections. 

Thanks ahead of time.  Hope I did not confuse you.
Merry Christmas also to you all. 

[bevans6]

All four of those look like air controlled switches to me, none look like relays.  Your relay will have four electrical terminals and no air connection.  Those all seem to have two electrical terminals and air connections.

Brian

[Utahclaimjumper]

They could also be pressure controlled tattle tales or idiot lights.>>>D

[luvrbus]

Gary, 1 black is for the parking brake stop light when parked, the other is brake light with the pedal applied , the 2 small ones are for low air warning buzzer and low air light,those are all switches the relays are under the drivers window fun,fun   

[Gary LaBombard]

Thanks Cliff, I knew you would come through.  another question, stupid I know but I cannot find the answer in all my stuff.  How are the back tail lights arranged starting from the top to the bottom of the 4 lights?  Brakes, Reverse light, Hazzard, running lights, directional lights.  I think I covered it. 

[Gary LaBombard]

OK, Watching youtube Eagle busses I see:
1 top light red-Not sure if this is running light at night running only?  Need help here.
2 2nd. light Amber- Directional & Hazzard if I am correct.
3 3rd. White-Reverse back up light
4 4th. Red-Not sure if this is brake light only or also running light at night time running?
Need assistance, thanks ahead of time.

[Geoff]

Gary--

What have you been doing the last 12 years that you are finally looking at your wiring?

Welding the rusted Eagle frame?

Just kidding.  Merry Christmas!

--Geoff

[Gary LaBombard]

Geoff,
I replaced the ENTIRE undercarriage from the floor level down, also I double framed every bit of the framing, I also enclosed all the wheel wells, installed all new air system with complete replacement of all valves, air tanks and air lines, replaced the DD3 brakes with spring brakes, rewired the entire bus 12 years ago of coarse.  But I never did 12 volts in my life and it took me 4 months, with a broken arm to do the wiring alone and lean how to do it.  Well, I think how to do it, but I did pretty good after  rechecking 12 years later, I found 2 miswired connections but come to find out, I did not need them anyhow as I do not have the original air conditioning in the bus.  Let see, what else, oh yea, removed, remodified an engine purchased from Ed Brenner, test run it on a test stand I built, reinstalled in the bus, ALONE, Installed power steering which it never had, installed new air dryer and plumbing.  The last thing on the wiring is my darn ole brake relay and brake switch mentioned in this post above.  I have put enough metal into my bus to need to use 23 10# rolls of .031 mig wire and 200 lbs. of stick weld.  I also completely replaced and reinforced the front of my bus to help with head on collisions or the hitting of an animal, I HOPE this works.  Let see, what else in my off time, Oh yea, I went on a Alaska trip for 78 days, had my left knee replaced, surgery on my right neck to make me more mobil in the neck area and in the mean time started to succumb to being 72 years old now. 

When I reread all this above I can't believe it all myself.  What a learning curve it has been and oh yea, wrote a CD for those wishing to purchase to learn from my in-experience on bus conversion purchasing which took me several months to make with the help of Dave Brawdy.  Now I see light on the end of the tunnel, well just a little any how but now the bus starts up from front and back, and now I am checking all systems for proper operation and I just had to check the wiring again as I felt I had to be sure what I did 12 years ago was correct.  I also made an up to date schematic of my electrical system as I changed a lot of things from original design so I can locate areas of any electrical problems should they arrive and i am sure will.  I am getting real nervous to say the least, I will be on pins and needles when I finally put back on the wheels and after painting take the bus for her maiden voyage and hopefully not worry about being brought back home on a low boy. 

Anyhow Geoff, I know you were kidding, I appreciate those following my progress over the years and support and information I have received and will still need up to taking the ole girl on the road again.  It sure has been trying at times I have to admit, but I hope I have done all I could do to have her live up to her name of the "Rustless Money Pit" after final painting.  I doubt I will have to listen to rust falling off the frame at night as we sleep.  Just Kidding here now. 

Well I have blown enough hot air here but had nothing better to do tonight.  Thanks for inquiring, But I still need to have the tail light information requested above if anyone with an Eagle can spare me the time. 

Merry Christmas to you also Geoff. 

[Geoff]

Gary, I remember your posts the last few years about your bus and your information on what to look for in a bus frame and the information you put out. 

Rust is evil!!

--Geoff

[chessie4905]

Wow! After reading about all you've done, I'm so tired that I'm going to take a nap. Amazing the difficulty when you get away from something for awhile. Btdt.

[Oonrahnjay]

Wow! After reading about all you've done, I'm so tired that I'm going to take a nap. Amazing the difficulty when you get away from something for awhile. Btdt. 

     Yeah, that puts it real good, Chessie.  Congrats on the work, Gary -- you're going to love the final result! 

[luvrbus]

Yep Gary and Steve had a major rebuilds on difference is Gary got screwed when he bought his and then only Steve would shop for a Eagle with the most rust he could find to rebuild .

It's been a long road but looks like both are getting ready for the road

[buswarrior]

Busnuts MUST make notes to themselves, and the future owner of their coach.

Time and again, a tenured busnut delves back into something done years ago, and cannot remember their design logic, the routing, the wiring, which decade the work was even done in...

Everyone finds out the hard way...

Take notes, draw schematics, write a blog, type a lot on BNO/BCM....

A binder full of blank paper in the coach, pause at the end of the day and scribble a little note, celebrating, or lamenting, the day's progress?

I sometimes search back on my own typing on the Boards to remind me that I did actually knew something at one time...

happy coaching!
buswarrior

[chessie4905]

I keep a spiral binder in coach to document date, and when I rebuild, repair, or replace something, if I remember to write it down..........

[David Anderson]

Here you are Gary.

Tail lights on bottom.  Brake light is in the white band area.

David