Waste water adapters.....
 

Waste water adapters.....

Started by Ncbob, May 01, 2007, 04:28:57 PM

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Ncbob

Honest guys...I did a search on this and didn't come up with anything.  Here's the problem;

Buses don't sit as high as S/S jobs and at this park (and the one in FL) the Thetford fitting (45 deg) which clamps on my discharge creates a problem. Even though I block the bus up to aired up height it still settles and the 45Deg el ends up with tremendous pressure on it.

But being the reasonable intelligent person I am (I thought) this year I got some PT 2X10 and put 3 peices under the LF tire and 1 under the RF.  Good drainage...as long as the bus was aired up!  when it settled, while there was no pressure on the 45 El...the hose was full and I was smelling that ugly sweet smell that we all know so well. ???

Simple you say.....add another tier of 2X10 under the front tires.  Fine...except that SWWNBD is 5' tall and God shorted her on legs in addition to the fact that she has a stability handicap.  >:(

My solution?  A short turn 90Deg. El to match the Thetford dogs would be just peachy keen.  The problem is that no one makes a 90. BTW...I have only a black water tank...no gray.  Me thinks that with the normal flow out of the tank a 90 should 'carry the traffic' without much difficulty. :(

Please help!  I know my poop doesn't stink....it must be someone else's! :D

If anyone has an viable ideas...I'm all ears (for a change).

NCbob

Dallas

Hey Bob,

There's something to be said for spring ride suspension, like on my GMC.   ;D

I'm not sure it would work, but while I was at Browns RV in McBee, SC they had some clear "close ells" made by Camco.
I'm not sure why anyone would want the poop schute to be clear, but there it is!

Another thought, how about using 2 close 45°'s? Or the really simple fix, ----- get a macerator pump and don't worry if the hole is higher than the bus.
It is also the way the s**t runs uphill!   ;)

Busted Knuckle

Well after reading Dallas's input on this I'm leary of trying to help! After all if s**t can be made to run uphill, I'm afraid of where uphill it might get directed! Especially since every one knowsI have basically 0 experience with problems with conversions ! But I got an idea Bob! You an Jackie hop in the ol' MCI and make a trip over here to West Tennessee an we'll fix you up with a system that'll allow you too raise the coach about 4-6" b4 blocking it! That way once blocked it won't be able to settle so low! Simple to do, not to expensive, and easy to use; flip a switch while parking, allow air to build while raising air bags, get out place blocks, have the misses flip the switch and watch the coach come to a stop on the blocks! Easy enough? Think about it, give me a call, and we'll get'r done! BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

jjrbus

 Bob I have a 90 on my hose.  They show it on page 130 of the latest Camping World catalog! It is clear so we can admire our handy work. I think I bought it at Wally world.
I posted a while back that doing it over again I would not put the drain through the floor. Several people said they did not see what the problem was. At least I have one on my side now!!
It sound like you need to find a solution to this. You may end up damageing your holding tank. Or is the discharge setup so that cant happen?
Remember, even at a Mensa convention someone is the dumbest person in the room!

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Hartley

I only ever used and abused macerator pumps. They are well worth the extra money and lack of hassle
getting stuff to flow in the right direction with only a 3/4 inch garden hose. The odors from the dump hookup
also will not return into the coach.

I dump my tanks at home by taking a cleanout plug off that is on the side of the house, insert hose
and turn on pump.... Black first then grey.. If you only have black tank, hook a hose onto the water
injector port on the macerator to flush the drain hose and valve.

Don't get me wrong, I have all 3" drains but use a macerator that twists onto the camco style valve barbs.
I got a 90 degree elbow from camping world a while back and they still make them I think.
I carry a 3" dump hose and in 10 years have never had to use one yet.

I did use one on someones camper once.. It kept springing leaks.. Not a fun cleanup....Reminds
me of the scene in RV ( the movie )...Fecal Matter..whoosh!

Macerators also pull a vacuum which will pull stuff out with little fanfare. at up to 13 gallons a minute.

The only things they don't like are bunches of long hair, cigarette buts and pop top rings, and hair bands..

Don't ask me how I know.. It is also handy to have a rebuild kit on hand when things get lodged into stuff.

Heck you could even pump into a plastic barrel in the back of a pickup if you needed to.

Just my experience. Then it doesn't matter where or how you park or how low...
Never take a knife to a gunfight!

gumpy

You mean like this...

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm/Outdoor-and-RV-Accessories/RV-Maintenance/Sanitation--Sewer/Sewer-Fittings/90-Degree-Clear-Sewer-Hose-Adapter-with-Bayonet-Lugs/skunum=22171


By the way, I use a clear fitting, and like it. I can tell when everything stops running out of the tank. I'm not squemish, like some must be, so seeing the waste run down the line doesn't bother me.

craig
Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

JimC

I have the same problem with the drains that NCBob has. I think the clear 90 degree elbow would help, but I am also going to set up a macerator pump like DrDave says so I can pump it into the septic tank when I get home.

Right now I dump it into the farm field behind my house, BUT, the dogs always seem to find it, and these are house dogs, the boss dosn't like it very much after they decide to roll around in the saturated ground.
Jim
4106 - 8-71/730
Oconomowoc, Wisconsin
between Milwaukee & Madison

Ncbob

Wow!  Thanks to all who offered their advice and Bryce...one never knows where we'll show up.

Richard, I'll contact Camping World this morning and see about the El and connector.

I have given much thought to a macerator and at this point not sure it can be accommodated. It's to be seen whether I can live with the existing system, with slight modifications, or bite the bullet and tear it out and do it over.  For the record it wasn't my brain child...probably installed by a disbarred plumber in the CHI area.

Thanks to all......

NCbob

Ncbob

Craig...pardon my inoperative brain....I was sooo certain the link to Camping World was offered by Driving Miss Lazy I thanked him by mistake.

Please accept my oversight and apology.  Might have known you'd be on top of a topic like this. ;D

NCbob

gumpy

Quote from: NCbob on May 02, 2007, 06:21:35 AM
Craig...pardon my inoperative brain....I was sooo certain the link to Camping World was offered by Driving Miss Lazy I thanked him by mistake.

Please accept my oversight and apology.  Might have known you'd be on top of a topic like this. ;D

NCbob

It's ok. Really.  I'm used to be shunned and ignored!  ::)

Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

Hartley

That's why I like ABS and PVC pipe components for drain plumbing.

If it don't fit, a hacksaw or sawzall will make it fit, A little glue and it's all better (or worse).

My drains have always been inside a bay and not hanging underneath. Main reason is they get trashed
or knocked off at some point. I have a hole to run a line down through but that's all. It stays blocked when
I am moving around too. Mines not perfect, In fact I don't think there is a perfect way to do it without some
problem somewhere.

My current drain has a Tee with a place to mount a permanent macerator, Just haven't done that yet
but will as soon as I have time and energy. It will mount on the bulkhead above the main line. I have a valve on each
tank that goes to another valve that closes off the end of the line. I can open either of the tank valves and pump directly and not need to even go into the bay to hook up a sewer line. ( well that's the plan ) I looked at how the boat guys do it and
went that way.
Never take a knife to a gunfight!

cody

My drain used to go thru the floor with an air valve that was controlled from the drivers seat, I changed that to have a 90 and it's now inside the bay with a manual valve to open it, I like it much better this way and it's higher so no longer a problem with the way they set up the campsites.

H3Jim

Is the macerator any faster or slower than just letting it run out a 3" pipe?
Jim Stewart
El Cajon, Ca.  (San Diego area)

Travel is more than the seeing of sights, it is a change that goes on, deep  and permanent, in the ideas of living.

TomC

Sounds like to me a macerator pump would be the cure.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Hartley

Quote from: H3Jim on May 02, 2007, 07:38:19 AM
Is the macerator any faster or slower than just letting it run out a 3" pipe?

No it's a slower dump because the solids are ground up and pumped into a 3/4 inch hose.
Clogs and lumps get shredded and sucked out of the tank outlet.

My 90 gallon Black tank takes about 15 minutes if full.

The Grey flows faster because it is all liquid in usually about half the time.
Never take a knife to a gunfight!