Parming brake not working at all
 

Parming brake not working at all

Started by Dlsnow, August 04, 2017, 03:19:23 PM

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Dlsnow

Yup
Parked it at a loves
Found it rolled back over the curb into the woods.
It makes the right air prwssure sound when i engage it
1972 MCI7 8v71 converted - 1kw solar on roof

Zephod

Quote from: Dlsnow on August 04, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
Yup
Parked it at a loves
Found it rolled back over the curb into the woods.
It makes the right air prwssure sound when i engage it
Empty your air cylinder. That way your bus isn't going anywhere. The emergency brake will hold it.


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Carpenter 3800 1994 on a Navistar 1994 chassis with a DT466 and alinson transmission.

J_E

It wouldn't hurt to keep a set, or two, of wheel chocks stashed for such an occasion.
Jason & Chello
1991 MCI 102A3, S50 @275hp , Allison 748 - Early stages of converting.

Prevost45

Anyone qualified adjust the brakes in the last couple years?

Zephod

Carpenter 3800 1994 on a Navistar 1994 chassis with a DT466 and alinson transmission.

luvrbus

Check the adjustment 1 st if ok and you have no leaks at the DD-3 chambers your inversion valve could be bad,people have a bad habit of never servicing  a inversion valve for some unknown reason, it comes apart and can be cleaned     
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Zephod

If you have ancient air brakes that don't have an emergency brake,  it's probably well worth upgrading.


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Carpenter 3800 1994 on a Navistar 1994 chassis with a DT466 and alinson transmission.

brmax

Glad your out of the woods
Tomorrows a good day for some ramps from plywood or something durable and safe.

good day
Floyd
1992 MC9
6V92
Allison

Dlsnow

So i tested it today and indeed when i pull up the parking brake it makes the right sounds but it does not slow or stop the bus from moving.  It rolls down even the slightest incline.

I will empty the air cans next time i park.

1972 MCI7 8v71 converted - 1kw solar on roof

blue_goose

You need to have someone that knows how to check your brakes.  They are in need of replacing or adjusting.
Jack

luvrbus

Block the wheels to keep the bus from moving, don't get under the bus and have some pull the PV if you don't see movement on the slack adjusters and rods when they pull the PV the inversion valve is not working.If you see movement then your brakes need adjusting or other some other type attention.Did this just start ? 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Dlsnow

It did just start after getting the clutch redone.  The park brake was working the last run we did from AZ to GA in 2016 summer.
1972 MCI7 8v71 converted - 1kw solar on roof

bevans6

1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

B_K

Or did they back the brakes off to tow it and never got readjusted?
;D  BK  ;D

buswarrior

NO, NO, NO, NO, and NO!

You have DD3 brakes, you do not have spring brakes.

That coach is in a dysfunctional condition.

Properly block the wheels until you get it fixed by competent help.

"emptying the air cans"? will accomplish nothing, there are no springs in there to come on.

Inversion valves are a consumable that rarely gets renewed, yet the inversion valve is EVERYTHING for proper parking brake function.

If it has failed so spectacularly, I would just replace it.

Mounted to a bracket on the differential, 6 airlines attached, all of which probably need replacing too.

use the anti-seize of your choice when re-assembling all the air line fittings, the threads, the mating surfaces, and the tricky one, under the fastener, above the mating surface, look where the little beggar will rust... so you can get it apart next time without destroying the air lines.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift