Bus down on Illinois- Wisconsin border-anyone around here to help?

Dreadnought · July 04, 2017, 06:56:51 AM

Quote from: buswarrior on July 04, 2017, 05:48:23 AM
Inspect fuel tank for debris?

A simple computer camera on a USB leash and a light will let you peer all around inside, if you don't have a dedicated device.

Your descriptions don't suggest a lurking overheat and engine seizure...?

Temp gauge/Hot engine circuit functioning?

happy coaching!
buswarrior

I will check for debris.

The bus has been running at a good low temp- around 160-185 deg. When it wouldn't fire it would turn over- splutter- almost fire and/or idle very rough before stalling again. I haven't tried to start it again this morning but will do once I've had some breakfast.

Dreadnought · July 04, 2017, 07:01:03 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on July 04, 2017, 06:09:57 AM
Carry spare filters the 20% bio fuel sold today causes lot of filter plugging on the old 2 filter systems ? did you last fill at Love's.Now days the Fuel/Pro is the way to go with the crappy fuel sold JMO

What is fuel pro?

How easy is it to change the filter system?

lostagain · July 04, 2017, 07:13:24 AM

http://www.davco.com/FP382.htm

J_E · July 04, 2017, 01:20:22 PM

Dreadnought, my coach came with a fp380. It's a breeze to change. Put a 90 degree ball valve on the inlet. Install it where you can have clearance for a gallon size catch pan and clear access to the top to refill from a 1 gal diesel can and you should be able to change the filter in about 5 mins. WIX replacement filters can be found in stock at local auto parts stores.

Iceni John · July 04, 2017, 01:35:42 PM

After you get this snafu sorted out and you are safely home, you could install a fuel filter restriction gauge (Racor makes one) on the output side of the primary filter, and a fuel pressure gauge on the inlet side of the secondary filter. This way you'll know if the primary filter is getting blocked, or if the pump is worn or not working right. An electric fuel priming pump plumbed in parallel to the main fuel line will also help you prime filters and push any air through the engine.

John

Dreadnought · July 04, 2017, 04:43:05 PM

Quote from: J_E on July 04, 2017, 01:20:22 PM
Dreadnought, my coach came with a fp380. It's a breeze to change. Put a 90 degree ball valve on the inlet. Install it where you can have clearance for a gallon size catch pan and clear access to the top to refill from a 1 gal diesel can and you should be able to change the filter in about 5 mins. WIX replacement filters can be found in stock at local auto parts stores.

Thanks- am looking into this. Have you ever had any issues with air getting introduced into the system with the fp380 at all?

Dreadnought · July 04, 2017, 04:46:24 PM

Quote from: Iceni John on July 04, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
After you get this snafu sorted out and you are safely home, you could install a fuel filter restriction gauge (Racor makes one) on the output side of the primary filter, and a fuel pressure gauge on the inlet side of the secondary filter. This way you'll know if the primary filter is getting blocked, or if the pump is worn or not working right. An electric fuel priming pump plumbed in parallel to the main fuel line will also help you prime filters and push any air through the engine.

John

That's a great idea! I'll probably need advice help- setting the electric fuel priming pump set up.

I've made it to Gary Indiana so far, no problems. I'm taking a little breather. The problem will rear its head again I reckon but not if I make it home first and take the above precautions. Thanks everyone!

J_E · July 04, 2017, 09:10:46 PM

Quote from: Dreadnought on July 04, 2017, 04:43:05 PM
Thanks- am looking into this. Have you ever had any issues with air getting introduced into the system with the fp380 at all?

I'll preface this by saying that I've only changed the filter on it once, but did get a little air into the system that could have been avoided.

The bottom of the housing has a drain valve that is also capped. When I tried to remove the cap, I ended up pulling the entire valve since the cap was on tighter then the valve and I only had one crescent wrench (all 16ths) and didn't want to take a pair of vice grips after the cap. I ended up getting about a half gallon of fuel out of it before I got the valve re-threaded, which was about a quart more than I needed to drain. I replaced the filter and the two or three O-rings that came with the filter. Once I got the lock ring for the glass bowl about an 1/8th to a 1/4 turn past hand tight, I refilled the glass bowl using a funnel and a 1 gallon fuel can I filled specifically for this purpose. She fired up normally, but about 5 secs later she sputtered a bit as the air worked through. I started the engine from the driver's seat, and before I could get out of the bus and back to the engine bay, the sputtering had begun and cleared. In the 900 or so miles since then, I have not had any fuel issues.

Scott & Heather · July 06, 2017, 04:14:16 AM

We swapped places

drove yesterday from port huron Michigan to our resting place tonight in Princeton ILL. Headed to Hartford IA today

happy trails.

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Dreadnought · July 06, 2017, 05:16:10 AM

Quote from: Scott & Heather on July 06, 2017, 04:14:16 AM
We swapped places drove yesterday from port huron Michigan to our resting place tonight in Princeton ILL. Headed to Hartford IA today happy trails.

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Thanks- I'm back at home camp now in Indiana. Am looking into filter solutions and aux electric priming pumps etc. I had no more problems getting here.

On another note- got new lenses for my clearance lights, new pedal rubber and rear lenses too and got the whole rig washed!

Dave5Cs · July 06, 2017, 10:57:25 AM

Here the pump and there is also a 24 volt version . Just hook it inline and hookup the positive and the negative to frame. Put a switch on/off and your done. When off no interference it just flows thru it. HTH helps. OReilly's also carry both on line and in store.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-12V-Universal-Low-Pressure-Electric-Fuel-Pump-With-Installation-Kit-E8016S-/141682055890

Oonrahnjay · July 06, 2017, 02:48:36 PM

Quote from: Dave5Cs on July 06, 2017, 10:57:25 AMHere the pump and there is also a 24 volt version ...

It says "Gas - Diesel" in the heading but if you click on a diesel engine in the "Compatible" chart, it says "NOT Compatible - Diesel Engine". I wonder??

Dave5Cs · July 06, 2017, 04:08:40 PM

Buce if you click to next page this is at the bottom. I got one for 12 v and one for 24 v. No problems. Now they are only to prime not to run on although someone on here said they lost their fuel pump and it had enough to get them down the road to get it fixed.....

This pump is designed to replace the OE fuel pump on carburettor equipped cars and trucks

Comes complete with 2 pieces of 8mm barb hose straight fittings and inlet filter unit

Compatible with Petrol, Diesel, Fuel Additives, Bio Diesel, Blended Alcohol Fuels and Racing Fuel Octane Booster Additives

Fits most carburettor equipped cars, vans, light trucks & other applications
FEATURE:

Operation Pressure: 2.5-4.5 psi
Operation Flow: 30 Gallons Per Hour
Hose Size: 5/16"

Oonrahnjay · July 06, 2017, 05:01:30 PM

Quote from: Dave5Cs on July 06, 2017, 04:08:40 PMBuce if you click to next page this is at the bottom. I got one for 12 v and one for 24 v. No problems. ...

Yeah, I thought that they'd probably work OK, but the description was real clunky. Gotta love the fuel pumps for those carburettor-equipped diesels!

GnarlyBus · July 06, 2017, 05:04:55 PM

I've used a pump like that to prime my 6v92 twice now. I have a whole setup with fuel lines and nozzle just in case I run out of diesel or am changing the fuel filters. It takes all the panic out of losing prime for me.

I met a bus nut who told me that he ran out of fuel one time and had to run a long line up above the roof and funnel it in to get his system primed. Crazy! Get the pump and be ready!

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