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Expected air filter life?

Started by Iceni John, June 07, 2017, 12:02:57 PM

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Iceni John

Quote from: Geoff on June 07, 2017, 03:57:41 PM
Those little gauges used to cost $12,. Made in USA.  I haven't bought one in 15 years.  I wonder if John's gauge is Chinese.

--Geoff
The leaflet with it from the Engineered Products Company in Iowa makes no mention at all where it's made.   Usually anything made here proudly and loudly trumpets its "Made In USA" origin, but there was nothing like that with it.   What's more telling is that Donaldson bought the company a few years ago . . .

I'll play with it on the weekend and see if I can come up with a compensation adjustment after I measure it against a water-tube manometer.   Maybe making a pinhole in its rubber tube will bleed out just enough vacuum to compensate for its over-zealousness!

My turbo boost gauge still shows about 26 PSI on a hard pull, so that's another indication that my filter's still OK.

John
1990 Crown 2R-40N-552 (the Super II):  6V92TAC / DDEC II / Jake,  HT740.     Hecho en Chino.
2kW of tiltable solar.
Behind the Orange Curtain, SoCal.

sledhead

never had one on the m c i but have one on the featherlite and I checked it and it did show some restriction so I checked the new filter and found some leaf pieces in side against the filter ? vacuumed it off and all is good . so now I will look at the minder more often . so it can be useful   

my intake screen is less then 1/4 " mesh so only the busted up dry leafs were getting in . the intake is on the roof as if it was like a ram air system

dave
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
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rusty

On my 05 with an 855 there was always a little smoke and I was trying to find out why. ( another story but that is the nature of an 855 ) I added a minder and with a new filter that I thought was big enough the minder would go to yellow. I added another filter and now the minder has never went to yellow. I would think that is a good case that the minder was telling me there was not enough air.

Wayne

TomC

I'm with JC. When you start blowing black under full throttle, time to change. You can take the filter element out and see if you can see lite through it too. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Iceni John

Quote from: lostagain on June 07, 2017, 08:48:32 PM
I duct tape a shop vac to the intake side of my Eco filter and carefully blow compressed air on the inside of the filter to clean it out.
JC
Wouldn't you blow into the outlet so the air is pushing dust back to the inlet side?   (I wouldn't want to force the dust further into the filter media.)   Any dust that then settles on the floor of the canister could be easily sucked up by putting the vac nozzle down the inlet pipe.   Or am I all cattywumpus?

John
1990 Crown 2R-40N-552 (the Super II):  6V92TAC / DDEC II / Jake,  HT740.     Hecho en Chino.
2kW of tiltable solar.
Behind the Orange Curtain, SoCal.

eagle19952

 ;D a new filter, a light, and a light meter... or two eye balls. :)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

lostagain

John, by sucking on the intake side of the filter with the vacuum, and blowing through the other side (outlet), I reverse the flow and get dirt out.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

Iceni John

OK, got it!   Or as Bart Simpson says, it sucks and blows at the same time.   D'oh!

Thanks, John
1990 Crown 2R-40N-552 (the Super II):  6V92TAC / DDEC II / Jake,  HT740.     Hecho en Chino.
2kW of tiltable solar.
Behind the Orange Curtain, SoCal.

TomC

DO NOT BLOW OUT AN AIR FILTER!! By blowing out the air filter attempting to get more life out of it, you risk also blowing micro holes in the paper element letting dirt pass to the engine. Considering how expensive an air filter is (about $150) and how expensive an engine overhaul is (about $15,000), it just isn't worth being cheap. If you have a question about your filter, get a new one-and get a good brand name filter-Donaldson is one of the best. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: TomC on June 09, 2017, 08:25:18 AMDO NOT BLOW OUT AN AIR FILTER!! By blowing out the air filter attempting to get more life out of it, you risk also blowing micro holes in the paper element letting dirt pass to the engine. ... 

     That's the #1 rule that I've always been taught about air filters.  #2 is be *REAL* careful about taking a filter out and putting it back in again - often the seal on the filter will be torn or stretched and you may not get a good seal the second time you put it back in. 
     A "dusted" engine is a heartbreak in two ways -- 1)  $15,000, and 2) it's usually preventable with a little care.
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opus

An oil sample will confirm if you have an air filter/seal issue too.
1995 BB All-American - A Transformation.

Zephod

Quote from: Oonrahnjay on June 09, 2017, 08:51:58 AM
     That's the #1 rule that I've always been taught about air filters.  #2 is be *REAL* careful about taking a filter out and putting it back in again - often the seal on the filter will be torn or stretched and you may not get a good seal the second time you put it back in. 
     A "dusted" engine is a heartbreak in two ways -- 1)  $15,000, and 2) it's usually preventable with a little care.
Those $80 gas blowers are a good example. They don't have a fuel filter. I remember fueling one while the wind was blowing. Some grit must have got into the fuel. The next day when I was using the blower, it started losing power then died. Pulling the cord I had no compression. Dismantling the engine revealed heavy scoring on the inside of the cylinder.  There was an air filter but no fuel filter.


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Scott & Heather

I bought the eco lite filter where the housing and filter are one piece and you throw the whole kit and kaboodle out when you're done. I like this approach because instead of cleaning it, I kind of have to replace it. Small price to pay for peace of mind


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eagle19952

Quote from: opus on June 09, 2017, 09:11:10 AM
An oil sample will confirm if you have an air filter/seal issue too.

had is a better word..by the time an oil sample tells you anything it's to late...
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

lostagain

An Eco filter is  not made out of paper.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)