Post Flood Protocol

[eagle19952]

i would jumper the fuel galleys and pump diesel through...a lot.... then i would drop the pan and get me a parts/solvent spray and do some look seeing before i started that motor....

[Scott & Heather]

Oil filled hubs on his bus?


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[eagle19952]

Oil filled hubs on his bus?


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one of the often over looked destroyers...differentials that were under water...oil floats.

i can't count how many diffs were ruined by people launching boats...seeps in and no one checks...

[JDWood]

https://vimeo.com/197712286

The link above, if it works, shows the first start attempt after draining all fluids and cleaning/drying ecm's. In the video you can hear the coolant pump (I believe) is stuck on.
The stop engine light is providing 2 codes, 43: Coolant level Low, and 54:Vehicle Speed Sensor Fault. I do not believe 43 actually exists but rather has something to do with the pump stuck on.

The start attempt fails in less than 20 seconds, as the motor tries to turn over but does not and from the cockpit the vehicle begins to shake. I have no experience with diesel so my question is does this appear to be simply not enough power to turn motor or something more? Could the coolant pump be stealing enough juice to starve the starter? I have 24V & 12V at equalizer but have yet to check elsewhere.
Eagle, thanks for the suggestion...however what will this do and what will I learn?

Thanks for any additional input...and yes these are oil filled hubs.

[Dave5Cs]

You should have about 12.8 to 13.6 and 24.8 to 27.6 roughly or your batteries are close to or dead.

[DoubleEagle]

Looks like not enough starting power to overcome compression, or there is still some uncompressible water in the way.

[B_K]

one of the often over looked destroyers...differentials that were under water...oil floats.

i can't count how many diffs were ruined by people launching boats...seeps in and no one checks...

Umm I think I already covered that!  TWICE!   (in both of my earlier posts!)

Yes John after you change the oil & trans fld you should be able to fire her up. But before doing so you need to do a couple more little preventive steps.
Like checking power steering fld to see if it got compromised. (if so that will be an easy fix just remove the lines from the reservoir drain put the lines back on, and refill.
Check the fuel tank to see if any water got in there. (local gas station should be able to help you out here. They have stuff you put on the stick they check the fuel level with that shows it water is present. See if they will loan you a little bit of it and smear it on a stick or hose and dip your tank to be sure there is no water in it.

Also after you get it running you need to get it up on blocks and drain the differential and pull both axles out of the drive to hubs. Put new gaskets on and reseal put back together and add about a quart of grease to each hub before driving it anywhere.

Also need to pull the caps on the steer and tag axle hubs and see if there is any water in them too. If so pull the covers off drain reseal put back on and fill to the full line! (do not over fill all the way to the bottom of the hole in the center or it will sling oil and drive you nuts until it gets back to the proper level!)

After all that your ready to take her out and shake her down!
  BK 

[B_K]

Wow that coolant pump is LOUD! I'd unplug the wire to it.

But to me it looks/sounds like the batteries don't have enough juice to turn it over.
Call me anytime Monday afternoon!
  BK 

[blue_goose]

If you got water in the cylinders, it could bend a rod trying to start.  I would turn it over first with a wrench to be sure it isn't locked.
Jack

[luvrbus]

If you got water in the cylinders, it could bend a rod trying to start.  I would turn it over first with a wrench to be sure it isn't locked.
Jack

That is the best advice you can have they won't just bend some will break and you need to check the compressor if water got above it.You diffidently don't want to fire the engine without changing the engine oil and the transmission filters and fluid if you get water in the torque converter on the transmission it is going to get expensive   

[eagle19952]

Umm I think I already covered that!  TWICE!   (in both of my earlier posts!)

YES u did... your point ?

[belfert]

https://vimeo.com/197712286

The link above, if it works, shows the first start attempt after draining all fluids and cleaning/drying ecm's. In the video you can hear the coolant pump (I believe) is stuck on.
The stop engine light is providing 2 codes, 43: Coolant level Low, and 54:Vehicle Speed Sensor Fault. I do not believe 43 actually exists but rather has something to do with the pump stuck on.

The coolant sensor should be in the expansion tank and there is no reason the coolant pump running should cause the coolant sensor to detect lack of coolant.  Have you actually checked the coolant level?  The sensor could also be reading bad due to corrosion from the flood waters.  I am pretty sure code 43 will not allow the engine to run.  My Series 60 has shut down from lack of coolant in expansion tank twice now, and both times there was a good size coolant leak that emptied much of the system.

[JDWood]

Brian...I spoke before fully investigating! In fact the purge tank is low...and I do not know why? Last time I checked the view glass I thought I remembered it was good....I do not drive this, just start every week for a bit....had been heating it up inside pretty well last several times running and did not check coolant level since weather got cold...but no telltale lights. So far I've added 6 gallons and its still thirsty. However, I would have thought the pump would shut down once the reserve tank was empty, mine did not.
Recapping, I have drained all fluids, water in oil pan, none in tranny. Once motor is running I will address diff and axles . Water did enter turbo and did reach compressor as well.

Is there a roll over system on the Series 60? Can you get a ratchet on without removing the bumper?

Thanks,
Jon

[luvrbus]

You have a switch on the rear panel to shut off the pump when the system is full with the pump running when the system is full mine would dump the coolant on the ground till I found a broken bypass hose,my pump is not automatic fwiw

[Scott & Heather]

I can't imagine the electrical gremlins he's going to be chasing for years to come. I had one bad relay sideline me for 4 days... I don't wish this on anyone. I am rooting for ya!


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