Lug Nut and Wheel Covers

Dave5Cs · October 22, 2016, 10:21:38 AM

Got a tape measure? Just Measure the nut side to side.Or Take a peace of clay and take the nut off and press it into it. Take the clay with you to the store and check the size. Or take one nut off with you and check the size that fits? Thanks Clifford I just bought 60 1-1/2" for 29.95 at Amazon also. Had been looking for a good deal and with Prime free shipping.And I have 20 extra in case I lose some....
Dave

luvrbus · October 22, 2016, 10:56:19 AM

Quote from: Dave5Cs on October 22, 2016, 10:21:38 AM
Got a tape measure? Just Measure the nut side to side.Or Take a peace of clay and take the nut off and press it into it. Take the clay with you to the store and check the size. Or take one nut off with you and check the size that fits? Thanks Clifford I just bought 60 1-1/2" for 29.95 at Amazon also. Had been looking for a good deal and with Prime free shipping.And I have 20 extra in case I lose some....
Dave

You should have waited till you stopped by I am using the Kane covers and don't need the 60 lug nut covers now, they are still in the packaging lol maybe a door prize for the Dam Rally

Tikvah · October 22, 2016, 11:35:15 AM

Well, I guess it doesn't matter anyway for now. I can't get the covers off without removing a lug nut, and I can't turn a lug nut with my tools.
I have a 1-1/2" socket, but not the leverage I need.

Maybe I need to buy a pipe.

Dave5Cs · October 22, 2016, 03:32:44 PM

Dave heres a torque multiplier for you. 65 to 1 for 38.00

https://www.amazon.com/Yontree-Torque-Multiplier-Lugnuts-Remover/dp/B01984LGXS/ref=pd_lpo_469_tr_img_3/160-4389461-7278162?ie=UTF8&refRID=V655WAXX22JRA2C2GJWT&th=1

luvrbus · October 22, 2016, 04:45:12 PM

DaveC, I think you miss read that, it is 1:58 a 1:58 with 1 complete turn will get you a little over a 1/2 turn on the nut or bolt I am assuming the torque ratio is 1:58 also

Dave5Cs · October 22, 2016, 06:47:23 PM

Nope it is 58 to 1. I have one that is 65 to 1 thought it was the same one but hey its close to mine.

I use it to break the nuts loose and then use my air wrench. I put them on with air wrench and torque with a 3/8" torque wrench to 7 ft/lbs and it = 455 ft/lbs

This is the actual one I have 1:65 = 65 to 1. If you were going to turn it 65 times would be one full turn. It takes about 3 turn to bust them lose with no strain.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPS5SQS?psc=1

luvrbus · October 22, 2016, 07:01:13 PM

Ok,that is cheap enough I have a 20:1 J6232 Proto it is a double planetary when in the 20:1 setting

Tikvah · October 23, 2016, 02:49:58 AM

Will that tool work on the rear wheels with the deep inset dish?

chessie4905 · October 23, 2016, 04:39:06 AM

http://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-pistol-grip-air-impact-wrench-62355.html

Read reviews. Buy some 1/2 inch air hose and put a fitting for it on your air system. Also if you buy their air operated bottle jack, changing or removing wheels will be much faster and easier from now on.

Oonrahnjay · October 23, 2016, 06:38:47 AM

Quote from: chessie4905 on October 23, 2016, 04:39:06 AMhttp://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-pistol-grip-air-impact-wrench-62355.html

Read reviews. Buy some 1/2 inch air hose and put a fitting for it on your air system. Also if you buy their air operated bottle jack, changing or removing wheels will be much faster and easier from now on.

No experience with hub-centered wheels (although they're what I'm in the middle of putting on my bus -- all new axles, brakes, wheels, etc.). 1" seems pretty big -- can you get by with 3/4"? Seems it would be easier to store -- and use by an old guy with arthritis in his hands.
Thanks, BH

luvrbus · October 23, 2016, 07:00:59 AM

Bruce,all I use is a 3/4 I/R weighs 7 lbs and the torque is about the same,you need to watch some H/F impact guns they are air hogs but the price is right and they work good for no more than the average person uses 1

Oonrahnjay · October 23, 2016, 07:28:27 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on October 23, 2016, 07:00:59 AMBruce,all I use is a 3/4 I/R weighs 7 lbs and the torque is about the same,you need to watch some H/F impact guns they are air hogs but the price is right and they work good for no more than the average person uses 1

I appreciate that helpful answer. I generally like buying quality tools but if the difference is between somebody that wants to use something for 8 hours a day for 10 years and for what I need but they work about the same, I'll take the cheaper one. I have a 3 quart air tank that I took off the Gillig front suspension kneeling system on my donor bus - I don't need it for anything else so I was thinking about making it the external-accessory air tank with a 1/2" air fitting. It would work for airing up tires and running air tools. It wouldn't put much strain on the bus compressor or my shop compressor (I have a 1/2" shop air fitting on my bus so I could air it up independent of the engine running), and it would be OK for what I need to run it for a minute and let the tank air up for a minute.
Thanks, Clifford.

brmax · October 23, 2016, 07:44:27 AM

Almost did! this morning bother you all with a post with HF air impact

I picked up the earthquake 1" with long extension, and no offense I used a 3/4 snap on for many years "daily" no not monthy daily and many times hourly. I should have invested in a 1" long before when doing that fleetwork.

I agree bigtime using a small 1/2" impact tool for install and follow up with proper torque with wrench. Many of these new steel 2piece lugs can in their design have compression and be a tough nut getting off in the future. I had in the shops a separate 1/2 hose outlet just for the 3/4 and made available my 3/4 for the guys for wheel removal and believe me I had cheater pipes 12 feet away.

Some of my buds at another fleet shop swore by IR impacts and I did like them also, that shop had big air available, I kept and ran 125 at the coupler.

I am not sure of an easier way to unload the Earthquake and move it around the bus, but its real nice to kick back with an Ice Tea remembering how tough that job can be, and always had extra vocabulary. Earthquake Rocks!

good day there
Floyd

luvrbus · October 23, 2016, 08:06:18 AM

All impact guns are only as good as the air supply IMO.I am so lazy with air gizmos when it comes to airing up my tires I just set the regulator for the correct psi hang the chuck on the stem and come back and move to another tire when I think about it

I am not going to spend 10 minutes airing up a tire

brmax · October 23, 2016, 09:21:38 AM

Your spot on Clifford, friends at the shop I mentioned like the IR wrenches, at their shop they have the rotary screw IR compressor, so I'm sure you know the don't have a problem with supply. They may get a small fleet discount?. Of course with 33 bays with a pro trained wrench in each turning wrenches on the likes of whatever HD including KW, Peterbilt's and Navistar's they talk, joke and get serious with tools as piece work pays with good performance. I was looking at the spec on my 1"quaker and it basically shows 17cfm consumption, I have never had it off of #1 setting of 3. It works on mine, a standard 2cyl shop compressor a typical one that ya cannot get parts for easy and reason I reamed and put inserts in the rods, what I think everyone does with these and aluminum rods. As a wrench I found it easier to look some specs up rather than go out to work, as its Sunday! anyway on the IR 3/4 it shows on their site like avg. 8cfm use and in looking farther right all the torques and other specs they as expected go farther (pro) and show consumption at up to 32cfm. Theres no doubt these Big Dogs can use some air, I dont mind waiting if I had to

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I need to just go on and hook it to the bus back coupler to check a lug that's been setting there waiting on a new Alcoa, studs, nuts (dreaming) I guess its shop time>

coffee's good this morning
Floyd