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How do I install a Donaldson air filter?

Started by belfert, September 27, 2016, 01:28:55 PM

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luvrbus

Quote from: blue_goose on September 29, 2016, 08:40:18 AM
Filter minders do work.
Jack

Maybe some do work but the ones I run into that people have purchased off Ebay and Amazon are nowhere close to be calibrated for the engine all diesel engines have a different restriction for clean and dirty filters 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Iceni John

Quote from: luvrbus on September 29, 2016, 08:54:02 AM


Maybe some do work but the ones I run into that people have purchased off Ebay and Amazon are nowhere close to be calibrated for the engine all diesel engines have a different restriction for clean and dirty filters 
Is there one that's best for 2-strokes?   My present filter minder is cracked and needs to be replaced anyway, so I might as well get something better if I can.   I have a Racor ECO-BC air filter, the biggest one made, but Racor only offers what looks like the generic filter minders on their website.

John
1990 Crown 2R-40N-552 (the Super II):  6V92TAC / DDEC II / Jake,  HT740.     Hecho en Chino.
2kW of tiltable solar.
Behind the Orange Curtain, SoCal.

Iceni John

One thing to remember with filter minders  -  if the filter is split or leaking air past bad seals, any restriction gauge such as a Filter Minder won't show anything wrong.   I had this situation a few years ago when I discovered my old air filter had several small splits in it.   After I had an oil analysis done to check for silicates (fortunately none found), I rebuilt my air filter intake plenum so I can now easily look down into the filter itself to check its internal condition (it's an inner-to-outer direction filter).   Only relying on a restriction gauge for the air filter won't always help you.

John
1990 Crown 2R-40N-552 (the Super II):  6V92TAC / DDEC II / Jake,  HT740.     Hecho en Chino.
2kW of tiltable solar.
Behind the Orange Curtain, SoCal.

blue_goose

Quote from: Iceni John on September 29, 2016, 10:45:32 AM
One thing to remember with filter minders  -  if the filter is split or leaking air past bad seals, any restriction gauge such as a Filter Minder won't show anything wrong.   I had this situation a few years ago when I discovered my old air filter had several small splits in it.   After I had an oil analysis done to check for silicates (fortunately none found), I rebuilt my air filter intake plenum so I can now easily look down into the filter itself to check its internal condition (it's an inner-to-outer direction filter).   Only relying on a restriction gauge for the air filter won't always help you.

John
You are quite correct, not only the filter has to be in good shape, but the tubes from the filter housing to the intake must be good to save the engine.  I check my tubes with either.  With the engine running spray around everything from the filter housing to the intake.  If you have a leak the engine will rev up.  Old filters even with low milage will go bad.  The glue and paper doesn't last forever. 
All the filter minder is, is a vacuum meter.  When the vacuum goes up the gauge goes up.  If you don't trust the filter minder use a good vacuum gauge with a hold indicator.
Jack

luvrbus

Quote from: Iceni John on September 29, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
Is there one that's best for 2-strokes?   My present filter minder is cracked and needs to be replaced anyway, so I might as well get something better if I can.   I have a Racor ECO-BC air filter, the biggest one made, but Racor only offers what looks like the generic filter minders on their website.

John

I don't know John just read your book and get the right restriction off the top my head I think it is 12 for a clean filter and 20 for a dirty filter @ full throttle on a 6v92.I believe they are all made or own by Donaldson I know the Filter Minder is Donaldson    
Life is short drink the good wine first

eagle19952

Quote from: Iceni John on September 29, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
Is there one that's best for 2-strokes?   My present filter minder is cracked and needs to be replaced anyway, so I might as well get something better if I can.   I have a Racor ECO-BC air filter, the biggest one made, but Racor only offers what looks like the generic filter minders on their website.

John

the best filter minder is the guy holding the wheel... take it out and look at it, feel it, tap it, or light bulb it, if dirt falls out or you can't seee the light .... get a new one :)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

eagle19952

Quote from: blue_goose on September 29, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
You are quite correct, not only the filter has to be in good shape, but the tubes from the filter housing to the intake must be good to save the engine.  I check my tubes with either.  With the engine running spray around everything from the filter housing to the intake.  If you have a leak the engine will rev up.  Old filters even with low milage will go bad.  The glue and paper doesn't last forever. 
All the filter minder is, is a vacuum meter.  When the vacuum goes up the gauge goes up.  If you don't trust the filter minder use a good vacuum gauge with a hold indicator.
Jack
in the arctic there is glacial silt every where...kinda like silica sand, bad stuff.

we always had the oilers wipe down the intake tubes with 90 weight...it was like/better than a tell tale indicator filter minder....it will hold any dust
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.