IRIZAR USA

[luvrbus]

I bought some Cummins of India LTD last week I'll see how that works outs my US Cummins stock has been good I am waiting for a split

[TomC]

You notice since Ford started building their own 6.7 liter V-8, you haven't really heard of anything about it-the old saying-no news is good news. Good Luck, TomC

[TomC]

Too bad Cummins is the only US based independent Diesel engine company with on highway certified engines. Both Caterpillar and John Deere have excellent engines that have to be Tier 4 certified also using Urea injection in the exhaust to come up to off road standards. But both Cat and JD are making more than enough engines for their off road equipment and marine engines. Classic example of companies that just don't want to deal with on highway engines and the regulations that go with them. Good Luck, TomC

[Iceni John]

A few nights ago I took a Primera Plus service from Mexico City to Aguascalientes in a MAN with Irizar PB body.   Very comfortable, wide seats with individual screens in them, and absolutely no squeaks or rattles from the body as we went over the damnably-rough toll road north of Mex City.   I'm impressed with Irizar's quality.   Bus services here in MX make Greyhound look rather hopeless in comparison.   I really hope that Irizar succeeds in the USA.

John

[CrabbyMilton]

Sounds nice. But you have to remember that an MCI or PREVOST could probably be ordered with such seating configurations as well. The operators can configure a bus regardless of who builds it. It all depends on the market.
Tom you are correct but then again CAT had engines that competed with DD but obviously they felt they couldn't cut it EPA mandates or not otherwise they would still be in the game. MAXFORCE even started to show up in some bus applications other than skoolies. But now it looks like NAVISTAR is slowly getting out of the engine business given that their skoolie now has the CUMMINS engine as the sole diesel offering. Never thought NAVISTAR would do that.

[bigred]

A Ford truck salesman told me that effective with in the next couple of years ,that Dodge would no longer have the Cummins engine as it had been aquired by Ford. Every time I pass on second hand info.I get in trouble!!!!

[luvrbus]

Cat also left the market based on the fact all the truck manufactures were making their own engines is what a Cat rep told me, IH won't be gone for long they are developing 3 new engines now to return in 2019 

[CrabbyMilton]

HEHE maybe that salesman owns CUMMINS stock too and was trying to stir up something to get FORD to think about a takeover.
No, like I said, FORD appears to in the belief that "If you want to do something right, you have to do it yourself."
PREVOST you might say offers their own engines since VOLVO owns them and do so in a big picture sense.
We'll see how NAVISTAR does with these new engines you speak of. Their recent history has given good reason for doubt.

[luvrbus]

IH and Cat have been in a joint venture for several years now developing a engine based on the C-15 fwiw,They knew their days were numbered when Cummins filed suit and won about the unfair practices with just paying the EPA fine of 1300 bucks and producing more engines but they got away with for 6 years 
Cummins is still chasing DD for mileage and longevity lol the Prevost owners I know would love to have another option for engines, it is strange you can buy a Volvo truck with a Cummins but not a Prevost.I don't care for the Cummins 8.3 liter engines made in China that is not a great engine IMO      

[CrabbyMilton]

The C8.3 is I believe no longer offered for US buses or trucks. Perhaps applications other than highway use.

[luvrbus]

The C8.3 is I believe no longer offered for US buses or trucks. Perhaps applications other than highway use.

I don't know if Cummins stopped production on the ISC or not I thought all the CNG engines where 8.3 ISC engines it's a piece of crap by any name