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Help 8v71 wont start

Started by carneybus, February 25, 2016, 02:55:42 PM

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HB of CJ

Your mighty Detroit would NEVER run wild?  It would not dare!  You have a Crown Supercoach?  Crowns Forever!  :) :) :)

Lin

Yes, the choice whether or not to use the flap may just be the hope that it will only do serious damage and avoid complete destruction.  That's why a called it a desperate last resort on a true runaway.
You don't have to believe everything you think.

luvrbus

Any diesel engine will runaway under the right circumstances   
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

Mine self deployed at 70mph on the interstate.  And it sucked about a gallon of oil from the blower into the airbox in the 1/2 mile as I pulled over.  If I had thrown the clutch in right away it wouldn't have sucked so much but I first thought out of fuel the way it lost power so I switched to the reserve tank and stayed on it for ten or fifteen seconds before looking in the mirror and seeing black smoke billowing across the highway.  I left a straight solid line of oil on the interstate as far as I could see that came from the air box drain.   Luckily my seals in the blower were only a few months old and have not yet shown any signs that they were damaged.  Biggest problem was it collapsed my intake hose.  Its happened a few time on me since.  That day I secured it with electrical tape and thought that would keep it up but like a week later the tape got hot and stretched allowing it to deploy.  Now it's zip tied.  3751 mounts the plunger vertical and vibration can pop it out of the locked position.  I thought my engine was dead by the amount of oil that poured from the airbox.  But nope I just let it drain and added a gallon to the engine, wedged the intake hose into a non collapsed position and wrapped it with duct tape and away I went.
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

chessie4905

Halon might be considered also.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

bevans6

Halon would be a great choice - clean, pure gas, wouldn't harm anything in the engine at all - but manufacture of halon has been banned since 1989.

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

Lin

I doubt that I will ever do anything to change the flapper system on this engine, but since people are floating ideas on alternate shutdown systems like CO2 and Halon, it brought a question to mind.  What would happen if one had a way to divert exhaust into the air intake?  Would that shut the engine down without creating other problems?
You don't have to believe everything you think.

Scott & Heather

Lin,


I think what would happen is your bus would then run in perpetual free energy motion!!! You should patent that idea!!!!
Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
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Lin

I thought that Apple got the patent for perpetual motion along with the one for the rectangle.
You don't have to believe everything you think.

luvrbus

I won't mention his name, I know this guy that got a bargain on a starter (25 bucks) some how with the left handed rotation starter he bought for a right handed engine he got his 8v71 started backwards.He called me in a panic mode by the time I got there the 8v71 had the whole neighborhood smoked up and was still chugging a long ,it took a while to get it shut down even with flapper closed.I LMAO he didn't think it was all that funny till a few hours later  
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

harpold700 3

3 dressed up as a 9