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The down and dirty of coach heat

Started by Scott & Heather, December 27, 2015, 09:50:24 PM

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chessie4905

Used the furnace at night also. Some do object to blower noise, but since we have hot air heat at home, not a problem
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

skihor

Quote from: Scott Bennett on December 31, 2015, 11:32:46 AM
Ok so you guys that like your propane furnaces, do you use them at night when you're sleeping?


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We have a 22K and a 40K Surburban. Yes they run at night. 12 years full timing now. the 40 was replaced when it was 25 years old.(went through 1 board and 3 motors). The 22K is 3 years old now with no issues. This month we burned through 125 gallons of propane. next month likely more. Been that way for all 12 years.
Don & Sheila

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: skihor on January 01, 2016, 08:32:56 AM
We have a 22K and a 40K Surburban. Yes they run at night. 12 years full timing now. the 40 was replaced when it was 25 years old.(went through 1 board and 3 motors). The 22K is 3 years old now with no issues. This month we burned through 125 gallons of propane. next month likely more. Been that way for all 12 years.
Don & Sheila

      Is this living in/near the Denver area, Don?
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

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skihor

Quote from: Oonrahnjay on January 01, 2016, 09:31:11 AM
      Is this living in/near the Denver area, Don?
Yes we live in west Arvada next to Golden.
Don & Sheila

TomC

The only way to get CO in the bus with a propane furnace is with a cracked combustion chamber. That's where a CO alarm comes in. I heat my house with a natural gas forced air furnace that's around 40 years old. I also have a CO alarm in my house. With the complexities, high maintenance, plumbing, pumps, valves to go wrong with a hydronic heat, I don't know how anyone would want it-unless you're that bored. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

gumpy

Quote from: TomC on January 02, 2016, 01:27:12 PM
With the complexities, high maintenance, plumbing, pumps, valves to go wrong with a hydronic heat, I don't know how anyone would want it-unless you're that bored.

You keep saying that, but it's just not true.  They are not high maintenance, and there's not much to go wrong.

My hydronic system has been working pretty much flawlessly for over 10 years.  This last trip was the first time I've had any issues,
when the system started sooting badly. Probably my fault due to neglect lately. Other than that, I've had one o-ring go bad, and my engine
preheat pump is not pumping.

Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

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chessie4905

What wuold estimate is the initial cost of a hydronic system?
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

digesterman

I agree with gumpy, no problems here and love the even heat throughput the coach
Lee
Le Mirage XL 45E
Detroit Series 60
470HP
111,230 original miles (11-2015)

luvrbus

Quote from: chessie4905 on January 03, 2016, 02:43:56 AM
What wuold estimate is the initial cost of a hydronic system?

John, you can build your own system with all new components for 5 to 6 thousand buying a new Aqua/Hot system will run around 10 to 12k if you don't go over board on the system.At 10 years Craig has good service from his. 

They are like everything else on a bus you need to stay on top of the maintenance,those guys like John and others they make a good living working on those units I do know that    
Life is short drink the good wine first

Lee Bradley

I think mine was less than 4K but I used a smaller Webasto (17,000 btu) and was able to source Webasto pumps on ebay for $100 vs $400.

robertglines1

Hot tub heater with built in flow switch hooked to thermostat .  kick it on starts pump and heat source -lp-elect- reach temp and shuts off. small expansion tank in system to store a small amount of liquid and take start up shock off pipes and small reservoir.  they used a similar system in home in 70's.  Bob
Bob@Judy  98 XLE prevost with 3 slides --Home done---last one! SW INdiana

buswarrior

For the DIY hydronic builder:

Don't make the mistake of forgetting that the parts will have to come out of there sometime inconvenient... and preventive maintenance means ACCESS to the machines... easier it is, more likely you'll actually do some, or pay less per hour for a tech...

Like your windshield wipers, they rarely fail on a warm, sunny day...

Spend the money on isolation valves, and unions.

Karma being what it is, the busnut who plans and designs for failure, doesn't?

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

sledhead

I built my system because my coach came with a 45000 proheat , so that is not in the cost .

4 control manifold                                                                                                           $ 450
1 heat exchanger                                                                                                            $ 450
pex heat pipe in floor with 3/4 "foam board insulation between loops to hold up 1 / 2 " ply floor   $ 535
1     2 gal. 120 v water heater                                                                                           $ 135
1  pump 12 volt from proheat                                                                                            $ 235
misc. fittings and supplies                                                                                                 $ 250

                                                                                                                  total cost      $ 2055

ps   my system is over kill as after you have the zones set ( 10 years ago ) I have never adjusted them so a simple pex manifold would have worked , you can buy a simple heat exchanger that is not rated at 500 lbs psi  and you do not need the proheat pump a simple hot water pump with 3 speeds would have worked fine .
with a savings of $ 300 - $500 

I only did it this way as I did not want any problems and because we live way way up north in the perma frost .

but the quiet running even heat is amazing on the road and on the poll
just my way

dave                     
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
1875 lbs torque  home base huntsville ontario canada

Scott & Heather

I get where Tom is coming from...you can buy and easily install a 30,000 BTU atwood furnace for $400 give or take. Hook it up to propane and you're done. A proper hydronic system will take time and $$$ to install. The propane furnace works...so it's simple and cheap. But, I also know that a properly set up hydronic system requires very little attention once set up. And everyone I know that has that setup loves it...
Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
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Scott & Heather

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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9