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Started by jonboy, July 11, 2015, 03:58:17 PM

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jonboy

Ok I posted a question about the Eagle Bus, the ones I like the best is the old school PD-4104.  I have found the prices much higher on them but they were very reliable, and I know how to work on the 6-71 as I was a mechanic. That being said how much more maintenance is the old bus to something newer?

Charles in SC

I might jump in here. First welcome to the forum! There is a wealth of knowledge here. Others will know a lot more about the Eagles than me but as for the GMCs I would not want a 6-71. Mechanically they are good engines but on todays highways they are kind of low on steam. They are what I call a good down hill bus. I have an 8-71 with a 4 speed. It is marginal at best. Any bus can be expensive to maintain but some of the things my Eagle owning friends talk about are breath taking.
S8M 5303 built in 1969, converted in 2000

bigred

Steve Weatherford refers to the PD 4104 as a bus with training wheels. In other words,if you can't keep one of these things going ,then you definitely don't need any thing else!!
Rhet Raby           137 Elk Mtn Rd       Asheville N c 28804             1993 Prevost XL

boxcarOkie

"Any bus can be expensive to maintain but some of the things my Eagle owning friends talk about are breath taking."

I am not married to a trophy wife so I don't know all that much about that.  But I will say this, "Maintaining a 4104 or a wife, both can get rather expensive."  So you might take that into consideration, "if you marry the girl, she aint gonna rust away, you are stuck with her."

Be careful here. 

There is good advice, and then there is a lot of the "other thing."  Kind of like all Internet garbage, pick out what works for you and throw the rest of it away.  That should keep you clear of some of these pompous gas bags that hang out here ....

Say? 

My phone is ringing I gotta go.

Welcome to the circus.

BCO

Frank @ TX

Hi jonboy,
Again welcome aboard!!
Early on when you first get a bus the expenses could mount up due to deferred maintenance issues from the PO.  But after that fuel , insurance , oil changes.  If you bought a well maintained bus and it doesn't need tires I find them good for full timing ( us for 5 years ) or vacationing ( us for 4 - 5 months a year ) . We've had this bus ( mc9 ,6v02 ) for 15 years just bought the second set of tires $$.  Look for the expenses early on and then taper off to normal maintenance.
Frank

Charles in SC

Quote from: boxcarOkie on July 12, 2015, 02:53:43 AM
"Any bus can be expensive to maintain but some of the things my Eagle owning friends talk about are breath taking."

I am not married to a trophy wife so I don't know all that much about that.  But I will say this, "Maintaining a 4104 or a wife, both can get rather expensive."  So you might take that into consideration, "if you marry the girl, she aint gonna rust away, you are stuck with her."

Be careful here. 

There is good advice, and then there is a lot of the "other thing."  Kind of like all Internet garbage, pick out what works for you and throw the rest of it away.  That should keep you clear of some of these pompous gas bags that hang out here ....

Say? 

My phone is ringing I gotta go.

Welcome to the circus.

BCO

I hope and assume the pompous gas bag thing was not aimed at me. I was just trying to be helpful.
S8M 5303 built in 1969, converted in 2000

plyonsMC9

Thanks all for welcoming my good friend Jon to the forum!  We're thinking that between he & I, we could eventually start the Bus Conversion Prescott Valley, AZ chapter.  By his joining, I believe we're doubling the number of bus folk in Prescott Valley.  ;D

Kind Regards, Phil
Northern Arizona / 1983 - MC9, 1995 MCI DL3-45

boxcarOkie

Quote from: Charles in SC on July 12, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
I hope and assume the pompous gas bag thing was not aimed at me. I was just trying to be helpful.

"No, it was aimed at "me" I am one of them, Hell, ask Clifford, he will tell you that I am their King!

There ws nothing "pointed at anyone in particular" (although a few do readily come to mind) and certainly not you.

BCO

saddleup

Ya when BOXCAR said gasbag I knew who he was talkin about...but..he's a friend..what are you gonna due.....lol
Yuma,Az


1974 Eagle 05 On the road, to Somewhere

digesterman

Thought he threw that one at me, now I'm disappointed
Lee
Le Mirage XL 45E
Detroit Series 60
470HP
111,230 original miles (11-2015)

Scott & Heather

If anyone is the gas bag around here, I've got that distinction this month. I've posted a lot lately :)


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
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jonboy

Quote from: Charles in SC on July 11, 2015, 05:15:48 PM
I might jump in here. First welcome to the forum! There is a wealth of knowledge here. Others will know a lot more about the Eagles than me but as for the GMCs I would not want a 6-71. Mechanically they are good engines but on todays highways they are kind of low on steam. They are what I call a good down hill bus. I have an 8-71 with a 4 speed. It is marginal at best. Any bus can be expensive to maintain but some of the things my Eagle owning friends talk about are breath taking.

jonboy

First I would like to thank ever one for welcoming me I'm very new to all of this. A big Thank you to the advice on the 6-71 verse the 8-71 I'm old school and drove school bus for several years so use to not having a lot of power. I'm looking at a 1977 MCI 8 with I think a 6V-92ta but will not know till I drive out to see it. I have looked at a lot of bus conversions and my wife is tired of me telling her about them and showing photos.......She said just buy one and leave me out of the hole thing...LOL I feel the best bus for me and my (wife) is one with a automatic. Time will tell as I do my search. Thanks ever one !!

boxcarOkie

It just leaped off the page at me, "most of us here definitely are of the age that we need a new member!"  Think about it, it will come to you.

Four hundred and something of you have read this?  You people need to develop a life ... Unplug from the pole at the campground and go somewhere!  Or do a quick cut and paste and try to fool the rest of us.


Now Lee you know there is a distinct difference between a "gas bag" and a "pompous bas bag" don'tcha?  (By the way, dontcha isn't really a real word ... Similar to Allergo Bus is not really a bus.  Consumer beware.)

Watch those right-handers.

BCO

digesterman

Welcome to the board Jonboy. Don how is the hand doing?
Lee
Le Mirage XL 45E
Detroit Series 60
470HP
111,230 original miles (11-2015)