50 year battery?

[Scott & Heather]

Can someone tell me if this is just a dream?
http://www.zappworks.com/nife.htm

Is there a battery that I could buy that actually lasts 15-20 years?


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[eagle19952]

Didja look at this page ?

http://www.zappworks.com/battery_prices.htm

[luvrbus]

Never heard of that brand but they are still around I see them on standby generators at the casinos here.

One guy here had a set in Eagle he bought and removed the batteries because he didn't know what they were. They are neat when you fill the cells you cover the acid and water with mineral oil to keep the water from evaporating sorta like making them maintenance free old technology making a come back like the induction cook tops from the 1930's  

[Darkspeed]

Scott, they are super heavy and have a slow charge / discharge rate but are very durable and last a long time.
They might be better suited for a stationary application.

If I was spending that kind of money I would be going this route > http://www.balqon.com/store-2/#!/HIQAP-12V-9-kWhr/p/34783145/category=12286435

3000 cycles at 70% discharge and very light.

[bevans6]

Dang, $4K for a 250 AH 12V battery.  I wonder what lead acid battery they are "20% - 25%" more expensive than.  You have to look at charge and discharge rates to see what they could actually do.

Brian

[CrabbyMilton]

Too bad they can't put that same technology toward a battery for a cordless vacuum cleaner. They konk out in about 5 minutes after a full charge.

[Lin]

Interesting, but I wonder who actually buys them at that low price.

[Jon]

A 255AH AGM Lifeline battery costs somewhere between $500 and $600. For the price of the lithium or even the Edison battery you can get as much life per dollar.

[luvrbus]

I have a buddy who just replaced his 3-8 volt-820 amp Surrette's (24V house system)
he paid 1100 ea this is his 1st battery replacement in 20 years since he bought the bus new, now that's pretty good service from a set of batteries I would believe 

[HB of CJ]

They called them Edison Cells.  About 1.2 VDC per cell.  1.0 dead.  About 1.5 to 1.6 fully charged.  Alkaline.  Not acid.  Big, heavy and kinda very spendy.  Bundle them up to get what voltage needed and you would be good to go.  Not very efficient weight wise for the wattage provided.  But ... they are still used in many applications.  HB of CJ (old coot)

Now wondering if they have licked the shorting out problem using very thin close plates?  This might reduce the size, weight and cost.

[TomC]

I have tried normal 8D wet deep cycle batteries. Then added Thermoil (1/4" of oil to the top of the electrolyte) to slow down having to add water. Now am on the second set (first lasted 7yrs) of Lifeline AGM 8D. In that 7yrs, did nothing to the batteries-it was as though they weren't even there. Will more than willingly pay the extra for AGM batteries. Until some other technology is invented, I'll stick with the AGM's. Good Luck, TomC

[luvrbus]

FWIW the Surrette batteries are a serviceable glass mat battery that why they last so long compared to a AGM 

[belfert]

Two 8D AGM batteries will supply the same amperage as one of their 24 volt 6KWH battery packs.  You could get two of the best 8D AGM batteries out there and still spend a lot less money.  The AGM batteries probably don't have the same depth of discharge, but they are cheaper and most everyone knows how to deal with AGM batteries versus Nickel-Iron batteries.

[boxcarOkie]

In 50 years my bus will be 88 years old, I will be 118 and you can bet your last dollar that "didya" will not be recognized anywhere in the U.S. in any working dictionary or Thesaurus.

I just replaced three starters, they were five years old.  Best to do it at home, than on the road. 

Pay me now or pay me later.  Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door.

BCO

[Scott & Heather]

Interesting thoughts. Ok. I know the prices are ridiculous, but if the tech is there, it usually eventually gets cheaper


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