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lvmci · March 05, 2015, 08:36:11 AM

hi All, toyota has announced they will sell a hydrogen powered car next season, honda has 2 of their mini sedans running around LV for beta testing with the city. I shot a chevy convention here and they had 10 of their small suv hydrogen powered electric driven vehicles, for the dealers to test. the then prez of. chevy, a nice guy, now at cadallic, told me it was the oil companies that refused to look into the the infrastructure to support the hydrogen fuel that would put the caboosh on hydrogen, the same thing that they did with cng, but look what happened, clear energy cng fueing stations, and fleets having their own fuel stations ,thru out north america, fueling at a fraction of the cost, lower maintainance and longer engine life, lvmci...

luvrbus · March 05, 2015, 09:06:28 AM

All oil co have always been big into CNG and LP for years there was just never a engine that was made till recently,they probably make more on CNG that fuels. It all starts from the hole in the ground the oil co's had rather sell it that burn the stuff off like they have for years.

These new truck and bus CNG engines are still not perfected yet the run so hot they don't last like the diesel engines,Cummins is about the only manufacture left in the CNG engines for trucks and buses unless DD is giving it another shot

Jim Eh. · March 05, 2015, 09:48:51 AM

Companies are in business to make money - yes. I just wish they didn't price their commodity based on market share. Either that or at least the government to not tax based on a percentage and just on a per gallon or per litre tax platform. The governments around the world tout that the taxes pay for road repairs and road use items yet they profit highly when the price goes through the roof. The road use and therefore damage does not equate to the dollars spent on fuel but rather the quantity of fuel used so why do they have to tax on the dollar amount? Fairness is obviously not in this equation.

luvrbus · March 05, 2015, 10:05:08 AM

Taxes are based per gal no matter what the price at 5 bucks a gal the tax is the same as at 2 buck unless like some counties that add a sale tax then they like high priced fuel

krcevs · March 05, 2015, 10:10:48 AM

Hydrogen fueled vehicle have been here for several years. The National Renewable Energy Labs uses a hydrogen fueled bus to transport people around. Some day someone will come up with a better battery storage system that will give longer distances and we can all convert, but until then show me the diesel!
I tried a wind mill on mine but the blades kept hitting the ground. Lol!

Ken

CrabbyMilton · March 05, 2015, 10:16:01 AM

I read someplace that some guy put an electric motor in a bus in place of the diesel engine. It worked perfectly in having as much power if not more than the diesel and it was very quiet. He pulled out of his driveway and without warning, the motor konked out. It was later found that the extention cord was too short.

lvmci · March 05, 2015, 10:57:59 AM

hi Clifford, so true, ng was just burned off for such a.long time, now they capture and sell it and the new technology, allows even more production of cng. as cng develops into a more common household fuel for transportation, not mostly for fleets, but for soccer moms too, as it is in utah, I think someone will come up with an easier vehicle pump, and consequently more mass appeal to the regular drivers. my 2 ford cng trucks, got as good mileage and no real everyday difference, until the ford sparkplug spitting 5.4ltr engine by fords modular engine incidents, not because of the cng. I've always thought the more.kind of fuels the better, so that no one fuel shortage would effect everyone across the board, ,stopping communities dead, with a shortage. I have always been a fan of hydrogen as a fuel, in combustion engines, I hope the engine engineers will solve all of the problems of hydrogen delivery, especially with the participation of the oil companies. tom, lvmci...

luvrbus · March 05, 2015, 11:40:20 AM

Yea Utah is the only state I have saw with CNG pumps on the same island as the gas pumps at stations they have had those since the 80's they were a little ahead of the times I guess

Cary and Don · March 05, 2015, 12:04:00 PM

I read someplace that if they took the oil speculators out of it the oil companies would be happier and the consumer would be happier. If the rules were changed that the oil buyer would have to take possession of the oil, then the prices would come down to us and the oil companies would still make more. The speculator isn't doing anything but buying low, sitting on the product and selling it high since they own most of the oil.

Cary

Iceni John · March 05, 2015, 12:15:50 PM

Quote from: krcevs on March 05, 2015, 10:10:48 AM
Hydrogen fueled vehicle have been here for several years. The National Renewable Energy Labs uses a hydrogen fueled bus to transport people around. Some day someone will come up with a better battery storage system that will give longer distances and we can all convert, but until then show me the diesel!
I tried a wind mill on mine but the blades kept hitting the ground. Lol!

Ken

Hydrogen is a politician's pipedream - it's a good placebo to woo naive voters. I wonder if the NREL has calculated the overall amount of energy needed to produce their beloved hydrogen in the first place, and the pollution so doing, and its transportation, versus the power it produces in a vehicle? At best, hydrogen is an energy transfer medium, just like electricity - it merely transfers the costs and pollution from the end user back to the source. If hydrogen were a naturally-occurring element on Earth it would be viable, but it isn't - it has to be made, just like electricity. One needs to look at the total cost of producing and transporting usable energy to know if something is truly "green" or renewable. Hydrogen isn't either. It's just smoke and mirrors, a cynical boondoggle to distract folk from reality. The NREL should know better.

John

luvrbus · March 05, 2015, 12:24:10 PM

If you took the speculators out of farm products a loaf of bread would probably be $.50 instead of 3 or 4 bucks too and T bone steaks would be a buck a pound not $15.00 lol but it is not going to happen is it, you should see the price for alfafa hay for May and June delivery it blows your mind

Dave5Cs · March 06, 2015, 04:30:53 PM

Clifford, Just got 3, T-Bones and 3, Porterhouses, 1-1/4" thick $45.00 with tax!.....

Dave

shelled · March 07, 2015, 03:42:01 PM

Quote from: luvrbus on March 05, 2015, 12:24:10 PM
If you took the speculators out of farm products a ... you should see the price for alfafa hay for May and June delivery it blows your mind

Speculators aren't the only factor. My farm friend in northern Arkansas says the hot deal is selling their alfalfa to Japan due to cheap shipping in containers being returned to the Orient.

edward