24V Inverter

[bevans6]

No, that one is not load sharing.  the Magnum MSH4024M is the load sharing one.  The "H" stands for "hybrid".

http://www.donrowe.com/Magnum-Energy-MSH4024M-p/msh4024m.htm

Note one thing - authorized Magnum dealers are not allowed to advertise a price lower than the authorized list price.  They are allowed to sell at lower than list price.  You have to call and ask what the deal of the day is.  If you buy from an unauthorized dealer, the factory warranty is void.  Magnum are quite pissy about that.

Brian

[Jon]

There are times when we all resist technology, and in some cases go out of our way to avoid it. But with the exception of some off the wall entertainment system ideas I have seen on new or newer coaches technology such as offered in inverters makes life so easy, plus is light years better on reliability is hard to ignore.

[sledhead]

thanks for posting that site Brian

did you have any problems or extra cost buying it ? and shipped to Canada ?

I have a prosine 2000 inverter now and it has worked great for years ....but when it craps out I think the msh4024m is the next one for me as I like the power sharing .

thanks   dave

[bevans6]

I bought my inverter (mine is a MS4024, not the hybrid) from Magnum's official dealer in Canada.  Matched the then-current US price within a few bucks, and free shipping and no duty, so I got a great deal.  Still have to pay the sales tax, though.

Brian

[eagle19952]

Note: You need to buy the remote control to access most features with the least resistance ..  

[Oonrahnjay]

http://beyondoilsolar.com/product/magnum-energy-ms4024-sine-wave-invertercharger/

Is this one set up that way? 

     Dave, that one is not set up as "load sharing", plus it doesn't have "hard connections" (it looks like there are plug-in sockets for the 120V loads wires.  I also don't see provision for a remote to set up custom float, bulk, and max charge settings, input restrictions, etc and to give battery readings and system status readings.   Maybe I've missed something  but this doesn't look like something that would give us what we want and need in a bus inverter system.

[belfert]

Someone along the way asked if the Magnum inverters have auto start and I don't see that anybody answered the question.  They do not have auto start built-in.  They have a module that is an add-on to the inverter that does the auto start.  Magnum actually makes two auto start modules.  One communicates with their inverters and the other is stand alone.  I have the stand alone model as I have a Prosine 3.0 inverter.

I got the auto start after having my inverter start beeping in the middle of the night because the batteries had gone low even though they had been charged that evening.  The auto start was cheaper than new batteries.  I do have to get new batteries this year because they don't really hold a charge at all anymore.  I am going with a smaller battery bank and just use the generator more.  I still have to buy diesel to charge the batteries regardless.

[Tikvah]

Well, that's a nice inverter, and nice add-ons.  But
$2395.20  for the inverter
$ 239.20  for the remote
$ 263.20  generator start
$ 175.20  battery monitor

That adds up to about $$3072.80

I can just buy this:  http://www.theinverterstore.com/4000-watt-pure-sine-inverter-charger-24-volt.html
for just $900 and switch manually like I do now.  Then I can run my coffee pot, heater, phone chargers, computer, piano, etc.

If it goes bad, I can afford three more for the price of the other one.   I like quality stuff, and I like features. . . but in my opinion that's out of line.

Dave

[bobofthenorth]

The price of technology adds up fast. Something else you might want to consider is looking for one of the old Heart or Trace Freedom models.  They are close enough to pure sine wave as makes no difference and built like brick shithouses. I haven't looked lately but I think you could find one for under $500 if you were patient.

[bevans6]

Well, that's a nice inverter, and nice add-ons.  But
$2395.20  for the inverter
$ 239.20  for the remote
$ 263.20  generator start
$ 175.20  battery monitor

That adds up to about $$3072.80

If it goes bad, I can afford three more for the price of the other one.   I like quality stuff, and I like features. . . but in my opinion that's out of line.

Dave

The unit you have there is a full function, built in 50 amp charger, built in auto transfer switch 4000 watt pure sine inverter.  Odd that the ATS is only rated to 30 amps, but there you go.  It is designed to be hard-wired to a distribution panel with breakers, etc.  Does pass-through of the line input to the distribution panel when it's in charger mode.  It doesn't have a battery monitor or a generator start function, but it has a remote available at extra cost.   I'll be completely honest, when I bought my Magnum I had a job and I had lots of money.  Now, I don't have a job and I would probably buy that unit, or do without. 

Brian

[Tikvah]

Here is the Heart I have now.  2000watt.  It runs the fridge on the road, and I have enough battery power to run about 24 hours without any charge. 
I can run a saw or drill. 
But, the Modified simply won't make coffee, or any of the other important, life sustaining necessities.

Dave

[Iceni John]

Well, that's a nice inverter, and nice add-ons.  But
$2395.20  for the inverter
$ 239.20  for the remote
$ 263.20  generator start
$ 175.20  battery monitor

That adds up to about $$3072.80

I can just buy this:  http://www.theinverterstore.com/4000-watt-pure-sine-inverter-charger-24-volt.html
for just $900 and switch manually like I do now.  Then I can run my coffee pot, heater, phone chargers, computer, piano, etc.

If it goes bad, I can afford three more for the price of the other one.   I like quality stuff, and I like features. . . but in my opinion that's out of line.

Dave

Dave,

Please don't rush into buying an AIMS anything  -  they really may cause you more grief than they're worth.   I know you can get three of them for the price of one Magnum, but because everything's integrated into one unit, if (when) one part of it goes Phut then the whole shebang is kaput.   I know you don't want to spend thousands, nor would I, but AIMS is not the way to go for serious dependability.   Maybe they're OK for occasional non-critical use, but I wouldn't trust them otherwise.

Caveat Emptor.

John

[Dave5Cs]

Dave here is another place that will save you some more. The nice thing about the remote and the Battery sensor is that when I need to know anything about whats going on with the Inverter or Batteries I just turn or push the button and there it is. All I have to do is check batteries for water each month. So far because it all together they haven't needed anything for 2 months so far. It keeps batteries at 27.8 all the time. If it gets below 30% down then the 110Amp charger kicks in and charges them back up. My electric bill at the ranch has dropped also because i am not always running a charger on them. It only comes on when needed.
I didn't put on the auto gen starter but may down the road. The hybrids have just come out in the last year and as always are high until someone else copies their feathers and put them on the market. You can tell the difference between a good inverter charger and a cheap one by the weight. And that is the Transformer coil inside the inverter. Good one are heavy and the light one are cheap and generally have plugs in the ends which mean you cannot hard wire them. The one you are looking at is a hardwired one but there will be a lot of things you will need also to hook it up and remotes to read batteries or you will be out checking them with a multimeter and filling them with water after they boil one because you didn't have time to check it etc.

Like the others not trying to sell it to you and have no connection to Magnum, outback or the rest of the good ones that have been in the business for a long time but you might wait to buy if thats possible and see if the price comes down or one of the others comes up with the sharing feathers like this one.

Like Bob OTN said Freedom 2000 to 3000 were the top of the line but they are still modified and won't run a lot of new things correctly but you might save some money on a used one with more watts than you have now.

Dave5Cs


http://invertersupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2654&cPath=0_477&gclid=CJHjtYXF9sMCFQWUfgodI1kAcg

[eagle19952]

I may not be the resident guru on any subject but.... this I do know... not all square/modified sine waves are created equal, they are just not called/advertised as pure because they are not.... I have had zero problems with the older TRACE SW models I've made coffee run printers and computers and flt screen tv's with the elder TRACE models and I have had two of them. they are often available in the $300-$400 range. Are completely rebuild-able, and always resale able. I would hunt one down and try it. 

What I would not do is pay $800. for one with a bad history of failures.

good luck ... (sincerely) 

[NewbeeMC9]

I have the old Trace 4024.

One thing I did not see mention is that it also auto synchronizes with the AC and/or generator when you hook to park power( don't have to run around and turn everything off).  It will check it first and not transfer if park power is and issue(safetey and pays for it self).

The trace also has a mode that I've used sometimes where it doesn't run until a load is needed.  I can turn that on and let it just run the fridge when it clicks on for a few days without any hook up.  A solar panel would greatly extend that.

The idea is that it draws power if it is just on.  but only need to be on when needed.  small loads like LED's and clocks mess with it and will quickly run down the batteries.

I would vote the old trace if you want a budget priced one.
-Or a bunch of smaller point of use inverters.


Also- if I was building a bus now-a-days, I would go Primarily DC and rare AC loads.  But that's just me.