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Started by Ace, January 02, 2015, 08:22:32 AM

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lvmci

we dont drink or cook with water from the tanks. lvmci...
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
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Scott & Heather

Ace, I mentioned this when we chatted at the rally, but seriously, spend the $$ on getting all pex sharkbite push connect fittings. You'll thank yourself over and over when you want to change things around later. They are awesome and I have never had one leak....ever. No need to deal with crimping rings and special tools. That's drama and I know how much you love drama.


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
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Barn Owl

Quotespend the $$ on getting all pex sharkbite fittings

I love them also and have made some emergency repairs on the road with them. No more fittings than you will find in a conversion why not use them? Yes, they are pricy, but in the end are only a very small percentage of the overall cost of materials in a build. Anyone else have experience with these? Pros/cons. I now carry several fittings in my emergency parts kit.
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digesterman

Dittos on the shark bite fittings, huge variety of sizes and configurations available. Only way to go


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Lee
Le Mirage XL 45E
Detroit Series 60
470HP
111,230 original miles (11-2015)

TomC

I used Quest tubing (Polyb, I believe) on my bus 20 years ago. Haven't had any issues yet. Am going to use Pex on my truck. At least on the truck if I have any issues, I have the basement to crawl around to fix anything. The bus to replumb would be a bit more of a challenge.
If you don't use Pex, what else can you use (not copper). Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

belfert

I used PEX and Sharkbite fittings in my bus.  I will be using a Sharkbite fitting or two in my house to avoid difficult situations with soldering copper.  The places I am using the Sharkbites in the house won't have damage if there is ever a leak.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Dave5Cs

I don't know if I 'd use sharkbite fittings behind a wall in the house I just don't trust that o ring in there over time. All rubber goes when dried out over the years.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

B_K

Quote from: Dave5Cs on January 04, 2015, 11:05:56 AM
I don't know if I 'd use sharkbite fittings behind a wall in the house I just don't trust that o ring in there over time. All rubber goes when dried out over the years.

Quote from: belfert on January 04, 2015, 09:02:54 AM
I used PEX and Sharkbite fittings in my bus.  I will be using a Sharkbite fitting or two in my house to avoid difficult situations with soldering copper.  The places I am using the Sharkbites in the house won't have damage if there is ever a leak.

He says he only intends to use them in an area that won't be damaged IF a leak occurs. My guess he's talking about in a garage or basement area where they are exposed for easy view & repair.

Also if they have water in them wouldn't that keep the rubber from drying out ???
;D  BK  ;D

bevans6

I've used Sharkbite and re-used them a time or two as well.  In tight territory they are a godsend, not having to use the crimp tool.  At roughly 6X the cost of plain fittings, I'll do a lot of crimping but some you just can't get to.  What I haven't done is come back after 30 years to see how they stood up...  They can be used with copper, or other 1/2" OD tube, which makes they a great transition from old work to new.  I had the white hard plastic tube, came out this spring and put pressure in the system, I had leaks at a half dozen joints, it just kind of fell apart.  Water system was open and drained for the winter.  PEX can even survive a freeze, often as not.

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

Iceni John

Elkhart Products Corp. (who make the TecTite push fittings for PEX, very similar to Sharkbite) have a 50 year warranty.   This type of push-together fitting has been used for many years in Europe with great success  -  it's a relatively recent development in this country.   I use some TecTite and some Sharkbite fittings, depending on which is cheaper or if I'm near a Lowes or a Home Despot  -  they seem comparable to me.   However, I take care to support the PEX either side of the fittings so it cannot move inside them at all when assembled: that's the only way I could imagine them leaking.

Yes, PEX itself is resistant to freeze damage, but the fittings and valves may still get damaged if they freeze, so it's prudent to protect all the plumbing if you're in brass-monkey weather, no different than any other plumbing, or simply drain the bus before winter.

John
1990 Crown 2R-40N-552 (the Super II):  6V92TAC / DDEC II / Jake,  HT740.     Hecho en Chino.
2kW of tiltable solar.
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Scott & Heather

I can't stress this enough, I have completely plumbed our coach (including behind the walls) with pex sharkbite fittings and have never (not once) had any of them leak. I have had brass shower valves split at a seam and leak, I've had brass nipples split and leak but never once my pex. I froze my pex main line last winter (-22F so it froze hard) and after thawing the brass elbow out and getting the water flowing again, I was back in business. The best reason to go with push connect fittings even though they are expensive is that you can move stuff around and rearrange your plumbing even years later if you need to. We are in the planning stages of a bother conversion to better suit our needs and even though we are putting our coach up for sale, I don't think we could sell it for $20,000 so if not, I'm stripping every pex fitting I can out of it and transferring to the new coach. I love the stuff. It's like tinker toys.


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1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
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luvrbus

Sharkbite fitting will leak over time especially on the hot water side with the vibration BTDT,it is same principal as the push in air line fitting on the later model buses and they leak over time also ::)
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Homegrowndiesel

Every situation is different. Here in Delaware, our water has a ph of 4.5 to 5. Any brass fittings will be eaten away within years.
   My family always thought copper piping was the only way to plumb. [not from Delaware]

After seeing copper & galvanized steel fail with our local water conditions, pvc and cpvc have lasted years longer. But,, after 5 years on our commercial dish washer, with all the jerking motions, the joints of the cpvc failed more than 2 times. About 10 years ago I put pex on the line to the dishwasher. I used flair it fittings, whitch are pom based plastic fittings, they are still there. I have tried sharkbite fittings and have have mixed results.

  On the 2 busses I have converted, i used nothing but pex, or heater hose.. I have used brass, or copper when it is used with antifreeze, but not with potable water. Our water will eat through most metals. Sharkbite, and all of the seals are only a temporary solution to work for a long term system.

   As most of you wont have to deal with our local ph water,, but,,, pex has stood up to the flex on my worst case situation.

the fittings are the issue. i just plumbed up an hot water heated floor , using several different fittings. Only time will tell. 
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blue_goose

Why would you use any fitting with Pex?  Make all home runs, only fittings at each end.
Jack

Dave5Cs



Also if they have water in them wouldn't that keep the rubber from drying out ???
;D  BK  ;D
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BK did you really say that, ?????LOL

Dave5Cs
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.