How much do bus belts stretch?
 

How much do bus belts stretch?

Started by harleyman_1000, December 16, 2014, 02:56:25 PM

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harleyman_1000

 I just put a block heater in my bus, and the old belt is now to short, because of the alternator being so close to the block heater.  >:(  My question is how much do these belts stretch on our buses? The problem I'm facing is the po put a dash air in and the compressor is very close to the alternator, so I will only have about 2 inches of adjustment.
Scott 
St.Louis Missouri

1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

eagle19952

Basically if you can get it over the pulley .... It will work .... If not it won't they really don't stretch ....
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

Ace

Not to dispute any claims but I ran the same belt for quite some time and found out IT was what was causing me a run hot problem, so yes it did stretch!


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Ace Rossi
Lakeland, Fl. 33810
Prevost H3-40

Beesme

Hate to dispute but I run a maint crew in a very big machine shop. We buy top grade belts specially made for us  on all spindles.. Yes belts stretch !!!  They cup they stretch  just a fact!
Bruce E.                                                                        62 pd4106 vs730.                   
Gonic N.H.

harleyman_1000

 Ok well then I will need to move my ac compressor a couple inches to the right so I have room for adjustment.
Scott 
St.Louis Missouri

1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

eagle19952

Quote from: loveshack on December 16, 2014, 04:19:18 PM
Hate to dispute but I run a maint crew in a very big machine shop. We buy top grade belts specially made for us  on all spindles.. Yes belts stretch !!!  They cup they stretch  just a fact!
so
Do tell other than wear ... How do you stretch a belt that is to short ... I and others may find it handy to know ....
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

sparkplug188

Donald- That is an easy one!  Just wrap it tight around two pulleys and wait a few years.  They always stretch when you don't want them to.  I wish there was a way to quickly extend a belt a half inch or so!  I can't tell you how many times I have bought belts that were just a little too short.

Ace

I used to build 1/4 scale 22cc radio controlled cars and we ran a XL037 cogged belt and although after racing 500 low six second laps, plus practice laps and qualifying races, the belt would be obviously looser than before it started out. Very little if any wear at all but my belief is the heat generated causes the belt to stretch. Of course sometimes during the main race you'd experience a broken belt but mainly due to a loose flopping belt.
Just one personal experience and like I said earlier, the belt on my bus mysteriously grew over the years and wouldn't turn the fan fast enough to run cool temps at higher speeds!
Also if you google the question "do fan belts stretch"? You will find interesting answers to back this up!


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Ace Rossi
Lakeland, Fl. 33810
Prevost H3-40

eagle19952

Spark I do not think he has a few years ... The city wants the bus moved tomorrow
Ace my sister could stretch your puny little belt lemme see what you can do with a B86 ....
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

harleyman_1000

Scott 
St.Louis Missouri

1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

sparkplug188

Can the engine be turned by hand?  -without unintentionally starting it?  It would probably be a good idea to lock the fuel shutoff lever closed with some vice grips.  If it can be rotated by hand, you might be able to get the belt started on the pulley then rotate the engine to pull it on the rest of the way.

harleyman_1000

 It is way to short now and will crush the block heater, but I got 3 different size belts from a friend that I'm going to try tomorrow
Scott 
St.Louis Missouri

1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

Ace

A belt is a belt! Doesn't matter how big or small, the principle still applies!
Yea I heard that, and more, about your sister!


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Ace Rossi
Lakeland, Fl. 33810
Prevost H3-40

eagle19952

Well I never guessed you'd take that personal and although the principle is the same I can break/stretch 3 old six pack beer holders and so can my sister but both of us together can't stretch a DD fan belt so I m guessing you can't either there really is no comparison between the belt your describing and the one on a bus
Ps insult me all you want but leave my sister out of it
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

eagle19952

Smh

Quote from: Ace on December 17, 2014, 03:20:26 AM
A belt is a belt! Doesn't matter how big or small, the principle still applies!
Yea I heard that, and more, about your sister!


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Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.