120/240 Electric Cook Top Hook-Up question

[Dave Siegel]

Hi guys, I have read the previous post several times about what you get or can get out of a correct 50 amp plug and hook-up. My question is far easier than all of that so I didn't want to include it in that post.

I have removed our propane stove (sold it) and want to put in a 2 burner ceramic cook-top (electric). I have found some nice ones that are 120 volts but the one that I really like (no knobs, just touch sensors on the surface) only comes in a 240 volt version. I have a 120/240 10 KW Onan generator that is wired into the bus to deliver 2 legs of 120 (or 240) My shore power plug is a 50 amp plug that works the same way.

My question is can I set up a 240 amp plug in the bus to hook up this stove? (Or hard wire it) I realize that I would have to run the correct wiring to the plug.

Thanks in advance for your answers, 
Dave Siegel

[Jerry32]

Yes and it will work as long as you can get 50 amp service or your generator but not on a 30 amp adapter.

[Nick Badame Refrig/ACC]

Hi Dave & Jan,

That 240v cooktop won't work off of your inverter either..

I have the 2 burner Seaward Princess but, the 2 knobs stick up.. , Both burners can be on with a 20 amp breaker and no problem.


Nick-

[Chaz]

I thought that cook top said it was a 120v.    Am I/did I miss something??

     :-\Chaz

[Connel]

Dave,
You have the kind of cooktop I want to install in my coach.
What is the brand, where was it purchased, and what was the cost.

Thanks,
Connel

[Sojourner]

Either way, but if your 240v range already came with plug...then install 240v (4-prongs) receptacle nearby (range's area) and hard wire to entrance box. It more convenience to remove range unit using plug system.

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry

[Dave Siegel]

Well this turned out to be interesting.....I'm glad, and it's not too teknikal yet.
OK I have determined that I can use a 240 cook top by wiring it in like you would at home. That's what I was wondering. Now there are a couple of other questions I want to answer.

CHAZ  said, he thought it was a 120 volt cook top and did he miss something? Chaz, I have a "portable" 120 volt induction cook top. It sits on the counter and can be put away in a cabinet when not in use. I wanted to install a 2 burner ceramic cook top that would be built into the counter top and ready for use at any time. That one is 240 volts.

CONNEL wanted to know what kind of cook  top I have. Which one Connel, the portable induction or the built in ceramic two burner model?

Thanks for all the great answers.

Dave Siegel

[Chaz]

Thanx Dave. Some how I was thinking that the one on ebay is what you were wanting to put in  your coach. But now I see what your talking about.
  So, can you help me a bit??? After reading this post and looking at ebay, I am REALLY interested in a cook top like the one on ebay. (120 portable) You say you have one? Is one brand better than another?? I would really like to know the pros and cons of them. It really sounds like the hot ticket!!!!
  I just bought a 3 burner gas cook top and am now questioning my decision and before I install it, I want to get some info on that type of cook top. Since you have used one, what are the pluses and minuses? By the way, I don't plan on doing much cooking inside the coach.... besides the convection microwave.

  Sorry for hyjacking! But this is really of interest. I may need to start another thread. 


     Thanx!!
        Chaz

[Dave Siegel]

Chaz, Before I get started, I love to cook, I am a good cook, and I love to eat good food, so I look for the best way to get me there. With that said.......

I originally installed a three burner Coleman gas (propane) cook top in our bus. We only used it a few times because it seemed to take forever to cook food (not a very hot flame). And the ambient heat around the stove was horrible. We have a PD3751 (Silversides) and our Galley is quite small, even with the vent open right about the stove the heat would become unbearable. I went to a restaurant supply house, and bought two of those single burner butane stoves that they use in restaurants for brunches and the chef has an Omlette station. They are wonderful, very hot and very efficient, but I learned to use them out side on a camp table. Not as bad, but Still a heat problem.(But because they are butane, they can safely be used indoors.)

I got this portable induction cook top and can not understand why any one uses anything else. They are flawlessly simple to use. Extremely fast. No ambient heat around the cook area. (Perfect for inside a bus) They only problem is that you have to put it away when it's not in use. It's like your toaster. But then again, if you leave your toaster out, you can leave this out. The cook top heats up instantly. Cools down instantly. And even has a heat overload shut down. I chose this model and it has worked well for us. It comes with a pan and a cover to get you started. Here's the exact link. (I have no affiliation with this company, but I wish I did)  Be sure to copy the complete link to get you to the right spot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Table-Top-Induction-Stove-Ceramic-Cooktop-Magnetic-Cook_
W0QQitemZ300084681592QQihZ020QQcategoryZ71248QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash
=item300084681592

Happy to answer any other questions,

Dave Siegel

[DrivingMissLazy]

Dave, you might want to check and see what the amp rating of the 240 volt unit. If what you would be using would be 15 amps at 240 volts, then you could install an autotransformer that would step up your 120 volts to 240 volts for the range. 15 amps at 240 would be equal to 30 amps at 120 volts.
Richard

[Dave Siegel]

Richard............Huh? I didn't get that one. I am wired in the coach for 240, would I still need that transformer?

Dave

[Sojourner]

Wondering why not make a shallow hole with open side to vent unit's heat (self contain fan) to be flush with counter top and still able to remove for portability. At 15amps @ 115v is very small power to emit unsafe heat out of unit's vent. About same amount of heat expels as large micro-oven power.

Now bring out the old cast iron skillet that we use in 40's.

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry

[DrivingMissLazy]

The transfsormer would only be required if you are hooked up to a 30 amp, 120 volt source. I did not realize you were wired up for 240 volts. There would have to be some switching installed for when you are connected in to low voltage.
Richard

[Dave Siegel]

Actually, I probably wouldn't even worry about using that stove if I was hooked to 30 amp or lower power. I certainly have enough other cook tops at my disposal. All I really need is a nice tent or canopy on the side and I could cook out there even in the rain, then all of this conversation would have been for naught.

Dave

[Chaz]

Thanx Dave!!!! I am going to look into this further. It sounds almost too good to be true! (reason why I'm asking  )
  I will search some other brands to get any other info I can, but I always like personal recommendations. And I won't hold you accountable.
  Any other info you can think of would be great. Thanx for the lead!!

   I appreciate your time and help!!
    Chaz