4104 AC Bay

[mung]

Anyone know what is in the top of the AC bay on the 4104?  There is a kind of pan looking thing that is down into the bay area and is bolted on.  Takes up the entire roof of the bay and makes it so my genny won't fit in that spot.  Can it be removed?

[mung]

This is what I am talking about.  The big pan bolted to the top of the bay.

[pennuja]

Is this in the front most bay by the entrance door (Curb side)?

I wish I could remove that too, I use that front compartment for tool storage and it is quite small. I would think yours is similar on mine there are doors inside that bay that contain more AC or heating equipment, filters. etc.

[mung]

This is on the driver's side where the old AC motor was. 

[harleyman_1000]

 Mine was removed when I bought it, and large genset already installed, so I'm thinking you can?

[gus]

Anyone know what is in the top of the AC bay on the 4104?  There is a kind of pan looking thing that is down into the bay area and is bolted on.  Takes up the entire roof of the bay and makes it so my genny won't fit in that spot.  Can it be removed?

That covers all the original AC/Heat thermostats and plumbing and also acts as the air chamber which directs air flow throughout the whole bus including the fresh air intakes on the side. You really need an original Service Manual which shows all this stuff.

You can reach into the space from above if the original under seat air returns are still there. They are small grills in the floor which can be removed.

If you're using the original bus heating you need to leave it in place. If not it serves no purpose now.

If the original heating system is working I advise you keep it because it works great.

[mung]

All of the vents are covered by the conversion.  I do have the manuals, but wanted to make sure that there was nothing that anyone knew about bad things with pulling it. 

[gus]

All that mess under there was originally part of the air distribution system.

Also, there is plumbing into the air system.

So, you have to decide if you will mess up any of this before you tear into it. I couldn't because I was still using the original heat.

I agree it takes up a lot of space in the old AC compt but you need to know what you are getting into beforehand.

[mung]

All of the vents in the floor are blocked off and as far as I know the coolant lines that used to go up there were redirected into the WVO tank.

[gus]

Your call - good luck:)

[Gordie Allen]

If the large DC motor and large fan it is connected to behind the access hatch are inoperable, then you don't need the ducting.

[mung]

Well with the vents being covered up by the wood floors, I don't know what good the ducting does anyway.  If the motor is operational, well, that might be something to reuse for another purpose.

[TedCalvert]

Be careful that you don't provide a path for possible CO from the genset into the cabin.  That could be a life-ender!

[ros]

How right you are, Ted.


Vern please DO NOT TAKE TEDS ADVICE LIGHTLY.

My dad died from carbon monoxide poisoning. 

Now here is the unbelievable:  I had a boats since 1965 until about  15 years or so ago.
I really have forgotten how many folks have died in their marina while using their generator when shore power was down due to hurricanes, etc.

I am not being melodramatic when I say that I always knew why when ambulances drove up the the marina. 

A very close friend of mine invited my wife and I and several other friends out for a cruise off of the Gulf of Mexico.  He had just bought a new boat.  The aft doors were open, he had a swim platform and the exhausts from the huge diesel engines vented below that platform.

Anyway, I and several others were on the 'flying bridge' while several were below in the main salon.  Some were overcome with the CO and others felt nauseous and had bad headaches/

Fortunately, he had oxygen tanks about and he and I administered oxygen to the afflicted.

This guy has huge bux.  He could buy the most expensive bus and in fact, a fleet of them.
The dog never gave me any of it.    hah.

Nevertheless, he told the manufacturer of his boat that he was going to sue them to the hilt however he would forgo that lawsuit if they would agree to do a very simple thing and that was to post a very obvious decal stating that cruising while the salon doors were open would allow deadly carbon monoxide to enter the boat. 

They complied and he verified that every boat that they sold, had this warning.

He is one of the very few, highly principled folks left, religious, too but realistic since hedonistic pleasures are not foreign to him.  He gives untold amounts to charities.  I am going to tell him that I am a charity.


We went to the Bahamas with he and his wife and then, my wife and I flew to Antigua, the island of her birth.

Ros

Be careful that you don't provide a path for possible CO from the genset into the cabin.  That could be a life-ender!