Shipping to Canada

[luvrbus]

Ok you guys in Canada I am trying to ship Brian some parts for over a week now I get a notice I need CCD paper work what the hell is that, I understand  the certificate of origin and they should be able to read Garrett made in the USA on the part,they are shipping back the parts and I have to pay the shipping cost back to me.

What gives I thought we had a trade agreement ?

[bevans6]

I'm sorry about the problem, clifford, I have never heard of CCD paperwork.  I've never had any issue getting stuff sent to me before.  I'll look into it, and I can see about getting a US address to have the stuff shipped to.  My sister lives in Detroit.

Brian

[bevans6]

It looks like it is something that the carrier/shipper is supposed to create, or the customs broker.  It is the Cargo Control Document.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/acc-resp-eng.html#P266_22757

Who did you ship the stuff with?

Brian

[luvrbus]

Thanks Brian,the 1st hurdle was my government I insured the package for 3 grand just in case they punched holes in the cooler so you would have enough to buy a new one.

I had no idea you could not ship anything outside the US with a value of over 2500 bucks without paper work so I just reduced the value, I shipped with FedX

[bevans6]

I think that means I am going to get charged tax and duty on whatever you insured it for.  I hope not...  15% tax and whatever for duty.  Governments suck sometimes...

[luvrbus]

It's coming back let's ship to Detroit like we did the injectors frign governments suck with all their rules and regulations

[Paso One]

The Cargo Control document is easy to fill out but "Most " times if the word "Antique bus parts" is included in the document it falls into the category that someone doesn't have to look up the "harmonized classification number"  as the item would not have one if it was a "Antique".  Of coarse a it is usually a not happy power tripping bureaucrat that finds it easy to reject the item.  But if the word Antique is there they don't need to think

[jbnewman]

I sent a couple of colleagues across the border to Canada last year with a car full of high end computer equipment. In the process became very familiar with that set of paperwork. It's required for pretty much anything, even if it's not taxed. Most of our equipment either complied with NAFTA or was duty free under some other exemption. If I recall correctly, the one item that was not exempt was a metal drawer made in China that had cost about $100. (Aside from the nuts and bolts, it was probably the cheapest item in the car). After I spent a week sorting through the paperwork, we happily paid a broker to take care of all of it, and have used them ever since for our FedEx/UPS shipments --- they are cheaper and better than FedEx's broker. (They even sort through the harmonized classification for us! Woo hoo!) Now I just need to find a similarly-competent broker in Australia. But that's another story.

Of course in practice the way it all worked was that because we had proper paperwork from a broker, the border folks didn't pay any attention to what was actually in the car. We were pretty confident though that if they'd had the handwritten 30 page inventory we'd have done without a broker that they'd have spent all day having everything picked apart.

One of the things we learned (that makes sense, but that we'd never thought about) was that when parts are used to make something else, they become part of that something else. Then there's a complex set of rules about how that "something else" is treated. So hard drives by themselves might require a duty. But hard drives in a computer don't if the rest of the computer was made in the USA. Put another way, made in China tires by themselves might require a duty, but when mounted on a USA-built car, they're treated as if they were made in the USA.

[bobofthenorth]

...............After I spent a week sorting through the paperwork, we happily paid a broker to take care of all of it, and have used them ever since for our FedEx/UPS shipments --- they are cheaper and better than FedEx's broker. (They even sort through the harmonized classification for us! Woo hoo!) Now I just need to find a similarly-competent broker in Australia. But that's another story.

Of course in practice the way it all worked was that because we had proper paperwork from a broker, the border folks didn't pay any attention to what was actually in the car. We were pretty confident though that if they'd had the handwritten 30 page inventory we'd have done without a broker that they'd have spent all day having everything picked apart..........

Its a racket - the Customs a$$holes co-operate with the brokers and we pay.  It depends on my mood whether or not I'm willing to play the game.  Usually I end up paying - I either pay the broker up front or pay with lost time and inconvenience because I thought I could do the shipment myself. 

[luvrbus]

LOL these parts are going to Brian's sisters place in Detroit I am not going to play their games a 60 bucks shipping fee turning into 200 or 300 bucks is just stupid 

Brian I should have her address but send it again just in case

[bevans6]

In your PM, clifford, and thanks!

Brian

[4104SoFl]

If you think those items are fun. Try heavy equipment.
Just moving over the boarder is a problem.
Much less if it is being sold from one country to the other
I'm not even going to get into shipping from one country to the other to make the port and go over seas
Man I remember the old days.
You can not touch it like that now

[sledhead]

Its all about trying to raise as much money as they can because ALL governments are out of money !

dave

[Jim Eh.]

Naw, the Government is never out of money, they just tax us more! Then we are the ones out of money.

[Fred Mc]

A friend of mine was a lowbed driver carrying a load of fuel for helicopters fighting forest fires in Wash state.As he tried to enter the US from Canada he was given grief at the border. So he said he really didn't care how long they took to process him as he was getting paid by the hour and it was their forest that was on fire. Things sped up then.

Fred