IL 671 governor needed
 

IL 671 governor needed

Started by Scott Crosby, September 01, 2014, 05:42:34 PM

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Scott Crosby

I am in need of a governor for a inline 671.  Mine broke today with a very scary result.  I'm still in the diagnosis stage for damage but the governor is clearly visibly broken. The bottom casting broke and wedged in between the weight shaft.  Scariest 10-15 seconds of my life before I got it to shut down.  My first two shutdown procedures failed and a split second Hail Mary attempt of a large towel over the blower worked.  The governor fuel cut off did nothing and a manual grab of the rack did nothing as it would not move.  Praying for no internal engine damage. 
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

luvrbus

S### happens that is why you always have vise grips on the control tube after a overhaul Don should have a double weight governor have you called him
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

I was shocked and still am that I could not move the rack to off by hand.  Since if was running after the new liner I was not so worried but I had to take that blower off again and that's what must have allowed that casting to break right down at the bottom of the governor.   No I've not called don but I sent him pm
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

Scott Crosby

Small parts of the towel ingested and cherry red flaming soot flew into my BMW that was parked behind the bus with the doors open.   My interior is covered in black soot.  My car was full of smoke but that was all happening behind me.  A truck driver ran over with a fire extinguisher thinking the car was going to go up in flames.  He saw the crap flying into the car.  
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

luvrbus

I have a friend that decide he knew all about Jake's and used a meter to set his buffer switch his 8v92 was in no mans land for about a minute it spun so fast it threw both weights through the housing and the roots on the blower expanded so much it took out the blower housing and locked down saving his engine.
You might as well order you a new set of injectors and be done with it they will start to fail one at a time his did in about a 1000 miles after the run a way 
Life is short drink the good wine first

opus

I take it it doesnt have a manual fuel shutoff cable?  Wait til you get one running backwards, running on engine oil.  :)

Glad you got it stopped.
1995 BB All-American - A Transformation.

eagle19952

you learn... we were taught to have a board with a piece of rubber sheet laminated to it to close off the air intake....when in doubt... >:(
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

mung

Speaking of shutoffs.  Wouldn't it be much safer to have some kind of cable run intake block off instead of the electric solenoid that is on there?

Vern
Vern in Central Florida
PD-4104-772

luvrbus

You are better off with the more modern double weight governor with the shut down in the governor instead of the shut down mounted on the head,those old single weight governors are a accident looking for a place to happen  ???

Now Scott needs to find out where he screwed up and tell you guys so it doesn't happen to you and he will find the cause 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Don Fairchild

It looks like the fork was not in the riser the way it need to be and when you tightened down the bolts it bent and jammed. That will cause a brown substance to gather in you drawers real quick.

Hope all  turns out ok. I do have parts if you need them. I have three 6-71's I could sell you if you wanted.

Don

luvrbus

Yep that is what I think happen too it ran ok before he replaced the gasket lol he won't do it again
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

The fuel pump is toast...  The fork on it twisted off and the pump is locked up.   That I didn't expect to see.   

Dog bone is sheared off.   

Mechanically the engine seems sound at first inspection.  At least it turns over by hand and all the valves are opening and closing. 

The blower I have not seen damage on yet but I expect to see some once I get it disassembled.   


The mounting if the governor I believe to be the problem.  I pulled that chunk out of the governor mount hole.   Clearly I was the last one to remove it and put it back on so it's on me 100%.  I had done it 4 times in the last week and I must have cracked it at come point and didn't notice it.  Then it broke around the blind back side and jammed the innards.  Over confidence probably equally to blame. 
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

luvrbus

It happens Scott lesson learn at a price
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

Never did I think that a sudden stoppage of a blower would do this to the fuel pump.  


The key is twisted and after removing it the pump is locked up solid.  

61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

Scott Crosby

I think Gene Russell has all the parts I need so far.  I'm on a used parts budget on this second bus.  :)
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com