Overpriced EL3's

[muldoonman]

After looking at the ad for coach buses for sale I'd say buy you a few and go for it.

[luvrbus]

You need to speak with someone like Jim Michaud that has owned all different types of buses and does the appraisal work for many customers   he has 2-1997 Xl 45 Prevost for sale one runs you can buy it for 18 grand or less the other with a blown 11.1 series 60 you can buy for around 8 grand for 25 grand you can have 2 one running 1 for parts.

You will find all the operators dump the buses around 700,000 miles no matter what brand Boomer gave you info about buying new the payments I doubt would be any higher than the maintenance on a million mile bus and the big boys have a finance program for a start up company or did 

[Boomer]

I think MCI made a big mistake with the E.  They were competing with their own product line by having three buses; E, J & D. And the GHL G made in Mexico, (we called them "Gina's" lol) what a joke.  The J quickly outsold the E and it's been downhill ever since.  Another example of MCI's financial problems over the decades. You look at the other manufacturers, Prevost, VanHool and Setra all only have two platforms to choose from.  One factor with the Prevost line is that they are a mature platform, the H set the standard for high floor coaches when they came out 25 years ago and the X has been around longer than that.  They just keep refining the platform instead of constantly bringing out new models.  You seem to place a lot of credence with what Greyhound does.  That's a mistake.  Nobody operates a company like they do.  Look and get advise from old well established operators that TAKE CARE of their equipment like it should be.  You mentioned Storer Coachways, that is a good example.  Another is Royal Coach in San Jose.  Or try the Colburn's at Pacific Western in Calgary.  Just MHO.

[CrabbyMilton]

MCI had the best of intentions with the E. they wanted to offer the widest selection after NEOPLAN USA went defunct. The D was considered the standard coach and the E was the premium coach. The J came along to bridge the gap between standard and premium while the DINA line was meant as a low cost alternative to the rest of the line. The J was such an improvement over the E, it became the top line coach with the D still being standard to low cost alternate with DINA out of the picture. Now with the MCI spaghetti plate arrangement with SETRA, the SETRA line could be considered the premium line about the J.

[Swadian]

We also the G4500 "Ginas" after Dina and G4500! 

I was intending to pay all at once instead of in payments. That's why I was not considering new coaches. Especially since the D4505 was tested to get less MPG than a D4500 due to EGR/SCR per USDOT Altoona Bus Testing.

How do you see a recently-rebuilt Detroit 60 from a beat-up Detroit 60?