Inverter 4024 In or out
 

Inverter 4024 In or out

Started by Dave5Cs, August 01, 2014, 12:16:51 PM

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Dave5Cs

Just wondering about who has their inverter inside the bus or in the bay and has it been a good idea or bad and why?

Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

bevans6

Mine is mounted on a plywood wall I installed about 2 feet into the first luggage bay.  It's up off the floor, it's got a heat shield between it's base and the plywood, it's mounted on 1" standoffs, it's about three feet from the battery bank.  The batteries are in the AC condenser bay where the fan motor used to be.  I cut out the frame for the fan and put in a floor.  The 4024 hums whenever it is on, that would drive me nuts if it was inside.

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

eagle19952

in the bay, shortest cable route, does't add heat to the interior....cooling is a bigger issue than heating, (my inverter does hum when charging (a little)),  but enough I would not want it in side.
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

Mex-Busnut

In the bay, within a few feet of the battery bank location. Why? Because voltage drops are far more severe @ 12 volts than @ 120 volts. In other words, you can be farther from the appliances then the batteries and have good voltage.

Dr. Steve, San Juan del Río, Querétaro, Mexico, North America, Planet Earth, Milky Way.
1981 Dina Olímpico (Flxible Flxliner clone), 6V92TA Detroit Diesel
Rockwell model RM135A 9-speed manual tranny.
Jake brakes
100 miles North West of Mexico City, Mexico. 6,800 feet altitude.

gumpy

In the bay. Remote control in the bus. Best solution, in my opinion (which is why I did it that way  ::)
Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

Dave5Cs

Thanks guys. I will go with the front bay like Brian talked about. I will have to move the batteries up from the rear engine bay and put a wall between the inverter 4024 hybrid and batteries. But it is do-able. I will have to build a box back where they were to hold all my oil and extra parts etc. in the back. I can pull the cable for the 12 volt and Vanner 60/20 up through the bays and over to driver side behind the generator where its battery is now. Great ideas. ;D

Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

chessie4905

   Mounted on shelf in pass rear bay; battery bank against bulkhead in next bank. Remote control in coach. Watch your weight distribution when locating battery bank.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

bevans6

I thought I would post a picture or two, for fun.  This is the driver's side front bay.  Power inlet is a 120 volt Marinco, which goes to an automatic transfer switch mounted on the front wall of the bay.  That selects priority one the cord and priority two the generator.  Power then goes to the Magnum 4024 and to one power distribution panel for the outlets that aren't powered by the Magnum.  There is a small four breaker panel for outlets that are powered by the Magnum.  The battery combiner switch is above the Magnum on the wall, it selects no battery to the Magnum, just the house bank or combines the house, start and alternator.  That lets the Magnum draw power from or charge all the batteries.  There is a big fuse beside the switch that is the input fuse for the Magnum 24vdc input.  Ground is to a stud in the floor of the bay.  The Vanner is mounted to the right and equalizes the house battery bank, which is four 6 volt 232 AH golf cart batteries in series for 24 volts.  I run all the 12v house loads, such as they are, from the center tap of the house bank.  Remote control for the Magnum is inside, as is the DC power distribution box.  I run all home-run DC grounds to a bus bar, and each DC circuit has a fuse.

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

Dave5Cs

Thanks Brian. That what I am going to do minus the sub panel. I have that already up by the driver ceiling. Also want to put the 4 6 volts 232 also next to all that with a wall or box for them and vent.
Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Ralph7

   Mine is attached to the bulkhead and suspended from the floor with a threaded rod (2,000W./100A.charger Magnum) and the 60A. MPPT charge controller is suspended from the center duct.

Larry B

Hi Dave-- I did the same as others, in the bay up off the floor as high as practical to get a good air flow and as close to battery bank as possible. The only thing I did that other have not mentioned is I mounted my remote control above the driver window so that it is in line of sight while driving. This location gave me a voltage reading from diesel dn50 alt. while driving and you can more or less tell the state off your battery bank . Also if you start a roof top ac. while driving you will now get  an amperage output reading from your alt. that is going into Magnum inverter to operate the ac unit. It was a bit of a struggle to get the remote cable up above the driver window but now it there I am glad I did the location. Just another small thing you might want to consider
           Larry B
1977 MCI-5B---
8V71- 4speed man

Oonrahnjay

    Mine is a inside but it's in a closed cabinet (large, with vent) under the stairs.  Can't hear it hum when the door is closed.  Outback 2012 which I ain't crazy about.
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Dave5Cs

Thanks guy for all the ideas, Larry I made 2 (one on each side) hollow columns up eachside by driver and just past door opening near passenger. they are wire chases and i can bring anything into the areas at the front or from side to side through the front area where cabinets go all the way across to each column. I also have chases in the bedroom down at the floor from the engine bay I can bring wires up into and all the way to the front if needed, so good idea in putting the controller up there also.  ;D
Thank you Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

belfert

The fans on my Prosine 3000 are pretty loud.  It is in a bay underneath.  I've thought about moving it inside, but I don't know if the fans would keep folks awake.  It also gets extremely hot in the area I want to place the inverter in back of my bus.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

LuckyChow

Quote from: belfert on August 03, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
The fans on my Prosine 3000 are pretty loud.  It is in a bay underneath.  I've thought about moving it inside, but I don't know if the fans would keep folks awake.  It also gets extremely hot in the area I want to place the inverter in back of my bus.

I've got the same inverter ---- the fans are loud.  Mine is inside in a cabinet.  Thank goodness I don't have to use it much.  Even a constant 6 amp charging for a prolonged period of time will turn the fans on and off.  If I ever have to replace it, one of the things I'll be looking at is fan noise.
Darryl
Smyrna GA
2000 Gillig Phantom