cruise control more hp ?
 

cruise control more hp ?

Started by sledhead, September 16, 2012, 09:47:33 AM

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sledhead

Hi    I herd a roomer that if you use the cruise control the ddec can add up to 30 hp if needed. (ddec 2 6v 92 ta) ?????                            thanks    dave
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
1875 lbs torque  home base huntsville ontario canada

luvrbus

Life is short drink the good wine first

sledhead

thanks  you just broke my bubble !                                        dave
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
1875 lbs torque  home base huntsville ontario canada

belfert

I have that feature on my Series 60 and it is a pain.  At the time you need the power the most you can't use it.  You probably aren't going to have cruise engaged on a steep grade.  I inquired about turning it off and the cost was so steep I decided I could live with it.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

sledhead

I was on cruise up a hill , manually down shifted from 4 th to 3 rd and I think it went into retard mode as speed slowed down , held ? I put my foot in to it to pick up more speed ,  so now I no longer use cruise on large hills .  I manually down shift early and it works good.                               thanks     dave       
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
1875 lbs torque  home base huntsville ontario canada

TomC

Brian-I think you should look into other places to have the cruise/power feature turned off.  The main reason for this is to encourage steering wheel guiders (commonly called "truck drivers") to stay in cruise control.  We don't need that.  I know that to turn off that feature, the repair shop should only be charging you one hour of labor.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

belfert

Can a shop that isn't a Detroit shop turn off the Cruise power feature?  I'm pretty sure the cost was WAY more than an hour of labor at the local Detroit dealer.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: belfert on September 17, 2012, 09:03:36 AMCan a shop that isn't a Detroit shop turn off the Cruise power feature?  I'm pretty sure the cost was WAY more than an hour of labor at the local Detroit dealer. 

    DD needs a VAG-Com ... you know what I mean!
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

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belfert

I was contacted via email by someone who said that a Detroit dealer is likely to install the latest program while removing the Cruise Power feature.  That may be why I remember being quoted a lot of money to have the feature turned off.  The same person said he would turn it off for me if I send him the ECM.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

garhawk

Someone help me out here.  Why can't you simply turn off the cruise at the dash/panel? 

gary t'berry
Eagle Mod 20 DD ser 60 w/slide
GMC RTS 102"  40er (in progress)

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: garhawk on September 17, 2012, 01:13:03 PMSomeone help me out here.  Why can't you simply turn off the cruise at the dash/panel?  

   Gary, this ain't a fight I got any dog in, but I think that people are saying that when they engage cruise, the software gives them 30 more horsepower; when they really would love to have the power (acceleration into an Interstate, climbing a big hill), they have to turn the cruise off and that knocks the 30 horsepower away.

   They *can* turn off the cruise, the problem is is that reduces the power.
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Hard Headed Ken

A common HP rating on a 12.7 is something like 430 / 470. 430 HP when not using the cruise control and 470 HP when the cruise control is engaged. As TomC said it's meant to encourage drivers to use the cruise control which is supposed to result in better fuel economy.  I don't think the dealers have a simple way of turning this feature off. I think it would take a new program downloaded from the Detroit server into their existing ECM. Or someone with outlaw programming software.

Gary, yours has been set to the max available HP, cruise or no cruise.

Ken
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rv_safetyman

I have looked at a couple of Series 60 on my ProLink and they had a HP table that had something like the 430/470 and then a plain 470.  If your ECM has any HP options in the rating table, you can select them with a ProLink.  Might see if you can find someone to hook up to yours and see what you have.

Jim
Jim Shepherd
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Hard Headed Ken

Quote from: rv_safetyman on September 17, 2012, 02:27:27 PM
I have looked at a couple of Series 60 on my ProLink and they had a HP table that had something like the 430/470 and then a plain 470.  If your ECM has any HP options in the rating table, you can select them with a ProLink.  Might see if you can find someone to hook up to yours and see what you have.

Jim

I have also seen a few that have that option.

Ken
Link to my engine swap slide show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxAFFBcoTQI

luvrbus

Watch the outlaw programs a friend of mine just got hit by DD big time 10,000 grand and the truck owner got 5 grand,seems like the FreightLiner dealer in Needles CA did not like anyone cutting his 125.00 rate,they both have a court date the amounts were what DD is asking I was told by my friend

good luck
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