Can someone look up 4106 history please?

[fortyniner]

Im about to pull the trigger on a nearly stock 4106 #2864. Could someone check
its history. It a long way from my location so Ive collected as many pics as
possible. Light surface rust on front windshield frame and a single small put
under rear window so I'm feeling pretty good about it. No holes  have been
punch in it either thank heavens.   

No power steering, yet

Thanks, Tom Phillips

[RJ]

Tom -

PD4104-2864 was delivered new in July of 1964 as fleet number 86 to Wisconsin Northern Transportation Company, HQ'd in Eau Clair, WI.

Have no other info on the coach, you'll have to sleuth backwards.

Be sure to post pics if you purchase!

FWIW & HTH. . .

[desi arnaz]

You won't be sorry, what kind of deal did you get?   There is also a nice 4106 in okc for$1900
Which is a partial finished.

[fortyniner]

Thanks RJ. The area under rear window has a single rust pit the size of a nickel. Original paint, no bondo. I dont  see any scary rust so far. Ill have to upload the pics I have somewhere after work and post a link.

I saw that OK bus. Very low rust but its had three roof airs punched through ceiling and good sized holes in the rear bay floor and back bulkhead for a genset. Plus windows are blanked out and its lost prime. Looks like a good engine but it lost prime and I think the guy may have smoked starter brushes since we could not get it to rotate with
big truck jumper cables.

-Tom P.

[fortyniner]

Picture of bus rear. Note small rust bubble on left side. Is this an indication of terminal condition or can it be corrected with reasonable work?

[fortyniner]

close-up shot of left rear.

[RJ]

Tom -

Common cancer area.  Totally fixable by somebody who knows what they're doing, not a hack.  That entire window surround area is steel, it needs to be fixed right in order to support the heavy window.

That aluminum trim underneath the bubble comes off, btw.  Some folk like it and leave it, others remove & recycle, especially if/when painting.

If you decide to remove the rear window, PLEASE let everyone know, somebody may be looking for one.  And if you do, IMHO, the coach looks far better when the owner maintains the original styling when covering the window opening, rather than an RV stick n staple rear cap.

Safety suggestion:  With a little rewiring, you can make the top brake/turn lights into turn signals only.  The BEST I've seen moves the red brake/tail to the bottom two positions (using the same lights you already have), then adds those big 7" amber turn signals you see on the back of skoolies to the top spot.  With careful planning, the OEM reflectors can be remounted on the tailgate, or you can use other models from a truck supply.

FWIW & HTH. . .

[fortyniner]

Thanks RJ. I have another old 4106 with good rear glass so I figured on swapping it in and getting rust fixed in the process. I dont have a shot of the rear airbag support beams but going by the general appearance assume they have not disintegrated
into flakes yet.

Good idea on turn signals.  Going to be rough driving back to texas with no AC. Maybe Ill get one of those liquid cooled suits the nascar guys are starting to use

-Tom P.

[RJ]

Going to be rough driving back to Texas with no AC.

Tom -

Nah, just drive at night and use the 4/50 A/C method - open the last four window sliders in the rear of the coach and keep your toll window open - you'll get plenty of cool air up front!  Crack the slider immediately behind the driver for even more airflow.

If you have to drive during daylight, get started at the crack of dawn and knock off around 1300, enjoy the pool at your motel/CG and thus avoid the heat.

That and LOTS of water in a cooler!!

FWIW & HTH. . .

[fortyniner]

Hey, at least is still has the drivers fan plugged into the light

[fortyniner]

Any comments on the condition of the undercarriage in this shot?

[OneLapper]

Good idea on turn signals.  Going to be rough driving back to texas with no AC. Maybe Ill get one of those liquid cooled suits the nascar guys are starting to use

-Tom P.

I have used my CoolShirt system in my bus!  It works really, really well!  If it's just me, I'll use that instead of running the roof airs (which don't do much when driving into the sun).

Mark

[fortyniner]

Hi Mark,

Seen those on the car track a few times to help with Texas heat. How often do you
have to replenish the ice?
-Tom

[OneLapper]

Depends how much you use it and how much ice, but it'll last several hours at ice cold.  Mine has an on/off switch and it's painfully cold if you leave it on too long! The better systems have variable speed pumps.

I use mine in my race car, my bus, and on my motorcycle.  A/C on a motorcycle is a great thing!

[fortyniner]

Can someone recommend a competent shop around central Texas that can properly fix the rust areas. Looks like there are a few more places that need to be fixed around the rear window.

-Tom P.