A Honest Seller and Buyer on EBay

[roadrunnertex]

Fact!
Never buy a bus that has been owned by a church.
Very little to no maintenance on most church buses.
Ask me how I know!
I bought a PD-4104 many years ago and it was a maintenance head ache.
The old bus was abused and had very little to no maintenance.
Lot's of money and time was spent on getting the old 4104 back in order.
Buyer beware when buying a (well) used coach.
jlv

[belfert]

I wouldn't necessary blame Easter's here.  It may have been like that when they got it.  That is why I said a previous owner covered up the rust.

[luvrbus]

BS, Bobby took the bus in trade and he knew exactly what it was that is the reason for the new under coating

[belfert]

I wouldn't necessary blame Easter's here.  It may have been like that when they got it.  That is why I said a previous owner covered up the rust.

I left out two important words:  I meant to say "That is why I said a previous owner may have covered up the rust."

I might buy another bus from Easter's if I was in the market again.  I know a lot more now and would probably pay someone to look at the bus before I bought it.

[artvonne]

It is just a typical cover up from that outfit. His MO is sell you a piece of crap and the only you can get your money back is buy a different bus from him and that is the deal Bobby offered him and hung up the phone and now he won't answer or return Jacks calls.

So he put the bus on Ebay where buyers can see and read the story he doesn't care if it sells or not he plans on the bus being on Ebay for a long,long time


good luck

  That sheds a whole different light on the story, and paints the seller out to basically be a crook. I still believe buyers have a responsibility to do their homework and accept their mistakes, as well as bring the problem to the attention of the seller and allow them to decide what they want to do about it before pointing fingers. But once they tell you to pound sand, your free to do all the darn finger pointin you want to.

  Sure, Easters could have got it that way, but most likely they knew its condition before selling it. And remember, Easters could call the man up at any point and resolve the situation immediately rather than letting it get blown all over eBay and the internet.

[Busted Knuckle]

  That sheds a whole different light on the story, and paints the seller out to basically be a crook. I still believe buyers have a responsibility to do their homework and accept their mistakes, as well as bring the problem to the attention of the seller and allow them to decide what they want to do about it before pointing fingers. But once they tell you to pound sand, your free to do all the darn finger pointin you want to.

  Sure, Easters could have got it that way, but most likely they knew its condition before selling it. And remember, Easters could call the man up at any point and resolve the situation immediately rather than letting it get blown all over eBay and the internet.

Paul you really have to visit Bobby @ Easter's one time to get a true perspective of him & his operation! He has tons of buses sitting around that he could move in a heart beat and make a few dollars on each one.
But instead he'd rather let sit & rot while he tries to make a fortune of any & every deal he does.
And trust me once you've seen his shop and the work the guys in are capable of doing, you'd really understand. (notice I said capable of doing, not in the habit of doing! And it's not the guys in the shops fault either, they do as much or as little as told to do.)

Easter's could be a top notch class act place. If the main person had a desire to make an honest dollar instead of cheating everyone that drives off his lot.
  BK 

[belfert]

I never have understood why Easter's has hundreds of buses in the back all slowly rotting away.  I wandered around a bit in the back when I was there and most of the buses had doors wide open and many times they had vines or other plants growing up into the bus.

All of the "good" buses are kept up front by the highway.

[Lin]

Merely because someone is a thief does not mean that he steals from everyone he meets.  If he has a good bus, I'm sure he is quite happy to sell it to you, and you would both be happy.  The difference between an honest man and a crook though would be his willingness to sell you a bad product while telling you it was good.  I appreciate the "buyer beware" thing, however I would consider anyone that used that as an excuse to sell an undisclosed faulty product to be a thief.  I seriously doubt (and hope) that those on this Board that have advanced that philosophy would not really do so themselves.

I certainly agree about the dangers of buying a church owned bus.  Mine was formerly owned by a traveling minister and was terribly neglected.  I will note though that the guy was as clueless as I was and had no intention of defrauding me.  Since BK mentioned the tendency of the seller to let people know about his church activities, I would add another caution to never trust any seller that tells you about how religious he is.  If the guy believes he needs God's help to sell something, something is wrong.

[Melbo]

My dad was a minister --- my brother is a minister --- however if someone NEEDS to tell me that they are in any way associated with, involved with, a part of some church or other organization that would make them more believable I always smile nod and walk away.

Just my way of handling those situations.

Melbo

[Barn Owl]

They would stack buses on top of one another if they could. I am always amazed how many buses they have, hundreds of all types and condition. Some of the nicer buses get scattered throughout the county in clumps on various lots here and there. I got the impression after stopping and talking to a mechanic that he is almost more of a bus hoarder than a reasonable seller. I could see where an inexperienced buyer would easily tend to trust such an operation. One would think that after may years and hundreds of buses they could only still be in business if they were on the level. I hope the buyer of that Eagle still gets to accomplish his dream.

I love Eagles, but would only own one that has had it's skin off and frame redone.  Lucky for me financially I am at the GM level of bus ownership, and get the benefit of owning an overbuilt bus that most people shun as a poor man's entry level coach.

BTW, you have to drive right by Easters to get to one the most beautiful camp sites in the U.S., Goose Point Park, Philpott Lake Campground. The place books up months in advance. Wake up in almost any site looking at the lake and not another camper.

[Bill 340]

Well I have been reading, all the post here, And some comments are correct, some maybe assumptions.  We bought our present coach from Easters, Bobby was almost impossible to get on the phone , even before we bought, our coach is a 1994 H 340, it was parked in the second to LAST ROW way in the back. Seems they are parked as they arrive, Just because its in the back probably means it came in last,  NOT ALWAYS, but it used to be that way, Bobby let us use his shop and his tools, while they prepped our coach for paint,  We saved a lot of time because of his kindness,  Now don't get me wrong,  He can be short if he has to be, But we were treated  great,  Now his lot and shop need some organization,  It is definitely an experience going there.  A lot of Bobby's coaches are consigned to him from some very BIG people, he really doesn't know alot about some of them,  Buyer beware, always any time with anyone. He will correct anything needed to make the sale, so check it out then make the deal, Would  We buy from him again, YES we would,  I had tag axle problems a year later , If I would have spotted it earlier he would have made it right,  BEFORE WE PAID.  After a sale is made to a consigner the money  is gone,  I missed the original post about the Eagle sale so I don't know all the facts,  This is just my take on My purchase from Easters.  I was treated good and would return, Hope I don't need another bus though............

[Barn Owl]

As listed on Ebay: 1989 Silver Eagle Bus Model 15 Recently Purchased from Bassett Virginia

1989 Silver Eagle Bus Model 15 Recently Purchased from Bassett Virginia

Purchased this Bus from Easter's Bus Sales in Bassett VA last month. It was sold to me as a nice, solid, good running, no motor problems, good tires bus. Good candidate for a Motor coach Conversion. On the way home from VA I noticed a significant engine oil leak. When I got home I took it for service and found the bus was in the following condition. I am wanting to resell this bus but I would like the condition known to the purchaser before the sale.

Front and Rear Frame Rotted Out, This bus is unsafe to drive. The shop that looked the bus over for me found the front of the frame that holds the suspension on to be rotted out. The rear suspension support frame is also rotted out. The bay that supports the air condition and heater box is also rotted out. Most of the frame was covered with a fresh coat of undercoating over what I was told was tar and bondo to conceal the holes in the frame. Because of this the bus should be towed from my location, it is unsafe to operate.

Engine Oil Leak. The shop has told me I have a few different leaks, the most severe leak being the blower oil leak. It has other small oil leaks and more oil than the shop liked to see coming out of the slather tubes. I have been told the engine will have to come out to fix these leaks.

I drove the bus home 450 miles and the bus did run nice, just leaked oil.

Bad Radiator. The rear drivers side radiator bottom has rotted out and needs to be replaced. It will also not swing out due to the structure above it being rotted out.

Two Rear Drive Tires on Passenger Side Bad. It was also supposed to have good tires.


On the bright side the bus other than the above mentioned is in pretty nice shape. The interior is nice, the outside looks pretty fair. Drove it home with no issues, ran 70 miles an hour and handled well. It was great fun to drive.

40 Foot Bus
47 Passenger
Video System
Detroit 6V92 Turbo Charged
Backup Monitor
1 Piece Door
I have a NEW Steering wheel that is not yet installed

It did get a PM service at the shop with new air filter, $1204.90

[Barn Owl]

For full disclosure I only know about Easters dealings both good and bad from what I have read here on this board in spite of living only two counties over, so I will declare myself neutral and see how history settles things.

[luvrbus]

I know how the bus was listed on Ebay by Bobby it was just as Jack described he was offered his money back on trade for another bus for 3x times the money so Bobby owned the bus it wasn't a consignment.  

Did you notice he paid Bobby 1200 bucks for service

This is will be entertaining Jack is not going to roller over and let it die lol and as a buyer he knows he made mistakes but he trusted Bobby big mistake there on his part

good luck

[Ace]

Clifford he paid the shop near his house $1200 for preventative maintenance not to Bobby