Greasy wheel
 

Greasy wheel

Started by CountingFireflies, September 08, 2011, 06:34:43 PM

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CountingFireflies

So the bus is well overdue for a wash. Road grime and exhaust.  Each day this month I've been watching the wheel lugs get more and more oil oozing from the threads.  It's also creeping up the braiding of the air filling lines.   Its on almost all corners of the bus, and in different amounts.  Where is it coming from?  Is it something urgent to service?   It's easy enough to wash off and ignore, but the curiosity is killing me!  Btw, we drive an MCI 102c3.
From the road...
Chris
'89 MCI 102c3 8v92t
2008 Jeep JK Rubicon toad
Chauffeur for www.countingfireflies.com
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viking1

not sure what the right term is, but its probably from the (think its called) slingers or hub lube. In the middle there is a little rubber plug and thats where u fill them, at least thats how it is on my 102C3. the plug might be leaking. I would think YES not good. I had to replace the whole unit on one of mine. Comes with a new gasket and rubber plug and 4 or 6 bolts
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Jriddle

Not sure if you explained this one well enough to get a good feel for your problem. Can you take some pictures to see what you are talking about. Maybe others aren't as hard headed as me LOL.

John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

luvrbus

Over filling the hubs will cause your symptoms when the oil level is correct you see about a 1/4 of a inch in the hub seal if you fill till it runs out it will blow oil


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CountingFireflies

So let me see if I've got this...  Each axle has fluid in it to lube the internal moving parts.  There is a bung hole towards the center to fill them, and possibly a sight glass to check the level.  If the level is too high, it will leak out the hubs and nuts.

How did I do?

From the road...
Chris
'89 MCI 102c3 8v92t
2008 Jeep JK Rubicon toad
Chauffeur for www.countingfireflies.com
Tweeting: countnfireflies
KJ4YQB - General operator

Busted Knuckle

Quote from: CountingFireflies on September 12, 2011, 09:15:58 AM
So let me see if I've got this...  Each axle has fluid in it to lube the internal moving parts.  There is a bung hole towards the center to fill them, and possibly a sight glass to check the level.  If the level is too high, it will leak out the hubs and nuts.

How did I do?



Pretty good! Now just one more thing that has not been mentioned yet.

Clifford aka Luvrbus mentioned if over filled they will leak and he is correct.

But also the little rubber plug has a vent hole in the middle of it that needs to be opened up once in a while so it can "breathe" if it gets pluged up it will cause pressure to build up and then oil will blow out where ever it can. This is a tiny hole right dead center of the rubber plug an I usually just straighten a paper clip and run it through the hole every so often.
;D  BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
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;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

Jriddle

Quote from: CountingFireflies on September 12, 2011, 09:15:58 AM
So let me see if I've got this...  Each axle has fluid in it to lube the internal moving parts.  There is a bung hole towards the center to fill them, and possibly a sight glass to check the level.  If the level is too high, it will leak out the hubs and nuts.

How did I do?



The drive axle will be serviced in a different spot. Mine is on the pumpkin about half way up.

John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

buswarrior

I would be immediately checking the inside of those wheels to see if the axle seal is leaking, and covering the brakes in axle lube.

It won't stop right under heavy braking with lube on the brake linings.

The axle seals need to be replaced periodically, depending on age and mileage.

A mainline fleet would put fresh ones every time the wheel end is disassembled, so annually for inspection, or for a brake job.

A busnut might stretch that out further...

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

Busted Knuckle

Quote from: buswarrior
A mainline fleet would put fresh ones every time the wheel end is disassembled, so annually for inspection, or for a brake job.

A busnut might stretch that out further...

happy coaching!
buswarrior

An a po' busnut would stop by and ask the mainline fleet mechanic if he had any take-offs for free!
;D  BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

Jerry32

I know  my rubbr plugs get worn or shrink some and start leaking it's time for new plugs. Jerry
1988 MCI 102A3 8V92TA 740

thomasinnv

I just replaced my plugs cause they were leaking bad. they were pretty shriveled up.
Some are called, some are sent, some just got up and went.

1998 MCI 102-DL3
Series 60 12.7/Alison B500
95% converted (they're never really done, are they?)

CountingFireflies

So I have an appt.  on Monday for a lube oil/filter at a garage in east Vermont that has a pit.  I'd love to have the mechanics replace the plugs while they are under there.   I've been googling quite a bit for MCI parts.  Is there an after market manufacturer of these, or do I need to order them from the manufacturer?
From the road...
Chris
'89 MCI 102c3 8v92t
2008 Jeep JK Rubicon toad
Chauffeur for www.countingfireflies.com
Tweeting: countnfireflies
KJ4YQB - General operator

robertglines1

plugs are not under there!they are on your axle ends center of your wheels  tags and steering
Bob@Judy  98 XLE prevost with 3 slides --Home done---last one! SW INdiana

Rick 74 MC-8

I think they are Stemco I replaced the hole thing with gaskets $19.00 each iirc

                            Rick
About 20 Miles West Of Chicago

AndyG

Take a look at this hub cap.

http://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/ryder/af/ryder/core/content/product/srm/key/W86%203034009/pn/Hub-Cap-With-Plug/erm/productDetail.do

The plug everyone is talking about is the red one in the center.  They will also leak if the gasket under the aluminum part fails.  You will see the clear plastic around the red plug.  The clear section is so that you can see the oil level in the cap without removing the plug.  The correct oil leve is usually marked on the cap.  You bus should have 4 of these hub caps. (steering axle and tag axle).