New to me 4104

[gulfyankee]

Hello everyone, I just purchased a 1958 PD4104, #2345. The bus is an older conversion. I've been doing a lot of reading here and at the other site, and intend to do a lot more. Right now the bus has a linkage issue with 1-2 gears, and a bad airbag on the right rear. The PO is helping me get those repaired. I'm already making big plans, trying not to get too carried away! The wiring is a mess, the box back by the engine bay is severely corroded. Has anyone replaced the fuse panel? I'm thinking of ordering a new, modern blade type. I found one with 26 circuits, figured that would be more than enough for future needs. Going to eventually be gutting and redoing the interior. Going to strip down the exterior paint and redo. I full time, and will have this bus for many years, as I travel for my work (I'm a pipefitter). This is my first bus, I've been full-timing for about 4 years now in 2 TT's and feel I am ready to move up, and have definate ideas in mind for what I want this bus to be like. I found this one for sale for $3500, and managed to get it for $2500. At that low buy-in, I figure I can afford to put some money into to make what I want. Just wanted to say HELLO!

[Melbo]

Welcome to the madness

Sounds like you did good on the bus --- especially with the seller willing to help you

Keep us posted and PICTURES we want pictures

Melbo

[gulfyankee]

Here ya go!

[MEverard]

Welcome to the world of bus conversions. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal on the bus. It's nice when you find an owner willing to help you. When I bought mine the PO did a couple of necessary repairs before I took it home. It can be a lot of fun as well as a challenge sometimes. My conversion is half done, but I am going to enjoy it as I finish the interior. I have PD 4104-4520. Since you put your vin number in the post, you should be hearing from RJ about the history of your coach. Feel free to post more pictures and ask plenty of questions.

Mike

[TomC]

Wow-just about no side windows! I like lots of big picture windows-after all aren't we out here to see the sites?  Especially when sitting it is nice to be able to gaze outside.  But-it's your bus now.  Good Luck, TomC

[Bill in KS]

Congrats.  Get ya some old work clothes on and quality latex gloves from Napa and dig in. 

I'd like to know if it has a 8V in the back or just the 4106 engine door ?? 


Bill in Ks

[gulfyankee]

I know it has the 671 with 4 speed, is that not the correct door for a 4104? Sorry but I really dont know. And Tom, I am already planning on more windows, don't care for the tunnel effect!

[TedsBUSted]

Looks good, gulfyankee.
Still has a tachograph too?

Enjoy

[qayqayt]

Congrats and welcome to the Board.  Just take things one at a time and enjoy your bus.  After owning ours for 3 years there's always a project on deck.  I see it as part of the fun (and frustration) of owning an old bus. 

Bryan
Vancouver BC
GM PD-4108

[Kevinmc5]

Thanks for the pic's. I sure like the lines and style of the older buses. Welcome and enjoy

Kevin

[RJ]

Gulf -

Welcome to the madness!

PD4104-2345 was delivered new in April of 1957 as fleet number 412 to Carey Transportation, based in Newark, NJ.  Carey's business was, and still is, primarily shuttle transportation to/from NY's two major airports.  There are several other busnuts here and over on BNO who have ex-Carey cars.

Yes, that's a 4106 tailgate on the back of your 4104, but at least it's not a fiberglass stick 'n staple look-alike.  Seriously look into replacing those taillights with the newer LED models.  Suggest you also might look into making the top ones amber turn signals only - might help the tailgaters to actually understand what you're going to to!

Also see that your coach still has the original rear window.  PROTECT IT!  Replacements are now made from unobtainium!!

Finally, to help us help you even better, I suggest that you add a "signature" to your posts, including the city/state you're based out of and your coach make/model.  Real first name's helpful too - some folk don't like to talk to "handles".  The location and bus model really help us direct you to more local help, along with giving you more correct info for your coach. 

Again, welcome to the madness!!

FWIW & HTH. . .

[Barn Owl]

Considering aluminium prices you got a good deal. Welcome.

[gulfyankee]

Considering aluminium prices you got a good deal. Welcome.

Thank you. And, yes, I did. Actually, the PO told me yesterday that when I had contacted him, the bus was about 3 days from being scrapped. His local scrapman had offered him $2500 for it, which was why I was able to get it for that price. He wanted to see it go to a good home than be crushed.

[gulfyankee]

Looks good, gulfyankee.
Still has a tachograph too?

Enjoy

Thanks, and yes it does. And registers 915,000 miles! Also still has the sign above the driver stating that seating aboard the coach is without regard to color, race, creed, etc. Lots of history in these things if you look, I'm sure......

[fe2_o3]

Welcome Scott, congrats on your 4104. We got ours 7 yrs. ago and haven't regretted it once. They are fine coaches and real eye catchers. Enjoy...Cable