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[robertglines1]

After being covered in grease and goo I use cheer or tide to help cut the tough stuff then hand cleaner also put hand lotion on before helps release some of the bad stuff..keep a pair of clothes dedicated to these voyages into the belly of the beast.. If local guy is expensive on started overhaul:ask here someone might have extra.  Bob

[Busted Knuckle]

Probably don't want to hear this now....... But said 3 starter bolts that were finger loose and being able to move the starter with said pry bar could be the only problem you have!
Loose starter = bad ground...... bad ground = no start!
If it were me the first thing I'd try is tightening the starter and try it.
FWIW   BK 

[bevans6]

Don't forget typical GM starters are "reverse" rotation from normal, since the engine is reverse rotation (no I don't remember if it's clockwise or counter clockwise and I am too lazy to look it up).  But a truck store starter for an 8V71 probably won't work.

Brian

[robertglines1]

good catch BK !

[bwze]

Busted Knuckle...........YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!....I took a quick break before getting to that last bolt and read your reply....quickly decided to give it a try since I really wasn't that far into the process and bada bing......we have ignition......thank you so much.....

[Busted Knuckle]

No problem Billy been there done that, got the T-shirt to prove it!
  BK 

[bwze]

Now I just need to get to the bottom of this smoke issue.....should I start another post?

[Dreamscape]

Now I just need to get to the bottom of this smoke issue.....should I start another post?

That would be a good idea. That way it's easier to find when searching. Also be descriptive in your title, engine, problem etc.

Glad you are moving onto bigger and better things!

Paul

[rampeyboy]

Welcome to the club. I too am in Columbia. I doubt I will be of much help with your bus, as I am struggling a little with my Scenicruiser project (mostly lack of time at the moment). If you ever want to talk busses give me a call. 803 319 0585
Boyce

[bwze]

Cool....a local bus owner. I'll definitely keep your number on hand Boyce. You can reach me @ eight zero three nine nine seven zero two five one......

[rampeyboy]

I forgot, there's a 4106 owner here too. I don't recall seeing on this board, but I think he's on the yahoo gmc busnut group. If memory serves his last name is Roberts? or McRoberts? I forget. Anyway, he keeps it in West Columbia. I emailed back and forth a few times with him years ago, seems like a nice guy. I'll be at a funeral today, then the next couple days will be busy with Christmas stuff, but maybe we can chat next week sometime.
Boyce

[Timkar]

Don't know if you are still looking for info on shifting, but here is link to an excellent article on BNO board..

http://www.busnut.com/bbs/messages/12262/16204.html?1167073154

[bevans6]

Now the starter motor on my bus has a separate ground cable to a dedicated ground lug on the chassis - that may be something to think about rather than relying on the ground through the engine block.  Not possible to have too good a ground connection!   

Brian

[bwze]

Looks like my loose starter was just a pipe dream after all. Tried to spin my engine this afternoon to check the idle speed and the starter quit working again. I decided to pull it and it looks like the only issue is the starter solenoid and not the starter itself. Anybody know if a solenoid can be purchased separate?

[James77MCI8]

Solenoids can be purchased separately. If I had the starter off I would take it to a local starter/alternator shop and have the unit rebuilt. I am in Spartanburg 864-923-5957.