Motion Window Installs- Experience (pros and cons)

[grantgoold]

Looking at oem inserts from motion for the bus. Has anyone had actual experience with the single pane inserts using the original frames from an mci 9? If so, what are your thoughts, ideas and precautions.

Thanks

Grant

[robertglines1]

not impressed;they were 5 times more expensive for the same size 29 by 60 single slide w /screen than here in midwest..I have one motion and 3 from bontagers I like the ones here better and can't see price differance..built the same...opinion's are my own ...not to degrade product just price..Bob

[RickB]

Grant,

It is my understanding that you can either order them as custom windows which means they come with a frame and you just switch them out or you can order them as a window that fits into your existing frame. I bought the latter and it was alot of work to get them in, you better have a number of good power saws, a good hacksaw and some talent as a fabricator to get them in.

Bob,

Were the ones from bontragers made to fit in your existing window cutouts or did you have to cut the hole out of the side of the bus and do a "custom" fitting?

Rick

[belfert]

I know people who are very down on Motion Windows, but mine have been good to me.  I talked to Storm-Tite also, but more expensive.  I spent hours looking for windows at RV surplus places and there are not many matching double pane windows.  They have tons and tons of single pane windows.  I think Cody was lucky to find the windows he did.

Grant wants insert windows for an MC-9 so going to an RV surplus place isn't going to help him.

Added missing word.

[robertglines1]

Rick I was putting in slides so I made my own frames...they quoted me 563.00 plus shipping for 29 by 60....I can do a lot of fab for 1200.00 differance for 3 windows...again I'm tight with money and have more time than money..did not question quality!  bob

[Bill B /bus]

Motion windows: expensive, will fit as an exact replacement, wall thickness is critical dimension to ensure a watertight fit.
Don't go single. Price difference is small to go to dual pane. Major difference in temperature and noise.

Good luck,
Bill

[luvrbus]

This comes up here often I am still waiting for somebody to post the facts that dual pane works any better than the Thermopane ( 2 pieces of glass laminated together.) this is the way most bus manufactures do it
I ran a few test of my own in the AZ sun and heat and cannot see much difference in the Motion double pane and a single thick pane of glass.
I am one also that think they are overpriced for what you get in results if you really want to stop heat and cold transfer go with a frame less and bonded window like used on later model bus then you have it in check


good luck 

[Dreamscape]

I ran a test when I installed our Hehr dual pane windows. In the lounge we have two original angled framed, single pane and two Hehr. The difference in temperature on the inside of the glass was 15 degrees less than single, on a 85 degree day here in Abilene. We could tell a big difference on the inside temp, A/C's don't have to work as hard.

We are about ready to cut down the heat further by installing some solar screens on the outside. I put them up temporarily on the inside and it really mad a big difference. I'm trying to cut our electric bill and keep the inside cooler during our hot summer months.

Don't know if this helps or not.

[luvrbus]

Paul, the side glass in a 01 Eagle is just safety glass.
Van has Thermopane single pane frame less bonded windows in his 15 all orignal and just a empty shell with 2 roof tops his bus stays cool no heat transfers from the windows it amazes me how the theromopanes work but I heard the windows in his bus are worth 500 bucks each used.
I tried my best to get him to remove the windows and leave me 10 of them but he didn't buy into the deal  LOL


good luck

[cody]

The Hehr windows paul has are a thermopane window, the term double pane gets thrown around a lot, the Hehr windows are a true thermopane window with low E ratings and they are a gas filled sealed window not just 2 panes fitted together, I have the same windows and the difference between them and the regular windows in my eagle is remarkable.

[Dreamscape]

Cody, I just learned something. I thought they were just plain two pieces of glass with a dead air space. Thanks for letting me know how good our windows really are!

Clifford, Now I understand what you meant, although I've never seen that type, which doesn't surprise me. He better keep em!

[RickB]

Grant,

If you are doing all the window cutouts yourself I know that JD at C&J coach has three slider 102 windows that he will sell reasonably. I wanted them so bad but the 102 windows are 6-7" taller than my MCI 9 windows. His number is 952-881-0034. They were in really good shape just sitting there gathering dust.

Good luck with your project and for what it's worth I don't think the dual pane option is a big issue unless you're full timing in a severe temp area i.e. Florida or Minnesota and frankly I think there will be days in either area that will be either unbearably cold or unbearably hot and the windows won't matter as much as great insulation and going overboard on either your AC and heating per square foot to offset those rare stretches of unbearable heat or cold.

Nick probably knows more than the rest of us combined on this issue though

Rick

[grantgoold]

Not looking to do anything but replace the oem windows with the best option that includes a slider. I would like to know what others have done in the same situation. I would love to take out the old windows, perhaps send the frames somewhere and have returned a new window with sliders.

Thanks

Anyone?

[luvrbus]

Replacing Oem windows with the same frame and sliders Motion is the only choice you have and Jeff knows that but I would not waste the money for his double panes

[Iver]

I have 2 Peninsula inserts now in our coach and I like them just fine.  Single glass.  I would like to get two more.
Delivery time- 6 to 7 weeks....

Latest quote:
Thank you for your interest in the Peninsula Glass Co.  We look forward to enhancing your bus conversion experience by making sure you are fitted with the very best windows sold in the world.  With over 30 years of experience in the industry, our reputation as the leader in quality is unmistakable. The side windows we offer for your MC-9 are replacement inserts™ for original equipment windows.  For this application, do not discard your original windows; your original window frame will be necessary for installation (see installation attachment details). These windows are available in either single or dual pane sliders with screens—prices below:



MC-9 Driver Window (pictured attached)

Single Pane T-Slider-$292.00

Dual Pane T-Slider-$375.00



MC-9 Entry Door Window (pictured attached)

Single Pane Half Slider-$292.00



MC-9 Side Window Insert

Single Pane Half Slider-$280.00

Dual Pane Half Slider-$418.00