TIRE FIRE

[JohnEd]

I was up at Rickreall yesterday.  They had seminars and I attended one on Oils and Lubes.  All interesting stuff and afterwards there is a group discussion on any subject.  GREAT STUFF and I kid you not.  For example:  Did you know that there are over 20 gallons of petro oil in every tire?  OIL?  OK I knew there was some, but 20 gallons?  It was brought up that when a tire goes out on the front, tag/bogie or outside dual the thing will usually disintegrate before you can get stopped and shed pieces all over the road.  Not much news to me but I hadn't thought it thru, admittedly.  NOW FOR THE NEWS, to me anyway.  If a inside dual gets a leak it will heat up and catch fire.  It doesn't chunk off into the highway.  It stays in there and BURNS.  20 gallons of oil worth of BURNING.  Your 100 gallons of water isn't enuf to extinguish that.   Your coach, bus, truck or whatever is toast, clear and simple, at least with a truck tire fire under it.

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID....but there is something you can do and it ain't intuitive.  KEEP DRIVING WITH THE FIRE.  That way there is some cooling and the tire disintegrates quickly.  You are certainly going to burn up sitting and any hope is just that...a slim chance.

Tire air pressure gauges anyone?   STAMPEDE!

Of course, that's what I am told.

Saw Songman for only a few moments before he disappeared into the chow line for Prime Rib.  It was yummy!  He didn't drive his bus but had one of those small vans for trans.  Hope to see him on his way south when he stops in Eugene to visit with Dick Wright for generator help/advice.(HTRN, note)

The nicest Prevosts and GM's and Iggles I have ever seen were there in numbers.   They will post about the meet and be sure to look at it when they do.

John

[pipes]

Sample of a burnt out bus!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/shubh/3162324562/#

I Remodeled my wheel wells by removing the over head aluminum (aluminum BURNS) with  1/8 steel Then on top (inside the bus)

installed Hardy backa board, tight fit, then insulation and on top of that a thin sheet metal under the floor hoping that it at  least slow down the fire to getting inside.........05 EAGLE



http://www.flickr.com/photos/shubh/3162324562/#



THANKS John  GOOD info

[JohnEd]

I remember now that Clifford has a set of tire pressure monitors for sale. Or had at one time.   No info beyond that.

RV Safetyman sells them....or did.  he can provide info on application and costs for bus  and toad.

John

[robertglines1]

my present project was the victim of a brake dragging and setting tires on fire...lots of damage...I bought it as a salvage shell...basically everything rubber was gone from differential back...stainless sheeting on floor saved rest of bus..melted alum skin on side of bus above tires...above stainless area....was a entainer coach with alum used to cover up window areas.

[rv_safetyman]

John, thanks for the mention. 

Yes, I still carry Pressure Pro tire pressure monitor systems.  I offer the bus folks a 5% discount.

Jim
three zero three 478 3501

[kyle4501]

Something doesn't sound right about this - 20 gallons of oil in a tire? - Hard to challenge a statement like that without doing a little independent research - its likely that is why no one challenged the speaker at the time.

So, having the benefit of time, I looked it up - turns out 20 gallons of light crude weighs more than a bus/ truck tire. What about the significant weight of the steel belting?  Hmmmmmm   It is my experience that when someone uses sensationalized exaggerated 'facts' - there is something wrong with their claim & it won't stand on it's own. Since that supporting 'fact' was wrong, it throws everything else said into question (guilty by association), so more research, questions & discussion is needed.

As was pointed out in the posts that were lost, continuing to drive a vehicle with a tire on fire poses a host of other hazards.

Seems the best action is to get everyone on board to gather at the appropriate exit & leave the vehicle to mother earth (ashes to ashes) as soon as you can stop.

Good discussion starter to point out the value of tire monitoring systems. 

I was up at Rickreall yesterday.  They had seminars and I attended one on Oils and Lubes.  All interesting stuff and afterwards there is a group discussion on any subject.  GREAT STUFF and I kid you not.  For example:  Did you know that there are over 20 gallons of petro oil in every tire?  OIL?  OK I knew there was some, but 20 gallons?  It was brought up that when a tire goes out on the front, tag/bogie or outside dual the thing will usually disintegrate before you can get stopped and shed pieces all over the road.  Not much news to me but I hadn't thought it thru, admittedly.  NOW FOR THE NEWS, to me anyway.  If a inside dual gets a leak it will heat up and catch fire.  It doesn't chunk off into the highway.  It stays in there and BURNS.  20 gallons of oil worth of BURNING.  Your 100 gallons of water isn't enuf to extinguish that.   Your coach, bus, truck or whatever is toast, clear and simple, at least with a truck tire fire under it.

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID....but there is something you can do and it ain't intuitive.  KEEP DRIVING WITH THE FIRE.  That way there is some cooling and the tire disintegrates quickly.  You are certainly going to burn up sitting and any hope is just that...a slim chance.
John