Bus manuals

[Sam 4106]

I have the parts, maintenance, supplement to maintenance, and engine manuals for our 4106. My wife bought them as gifts for me so she doesn't want me to give them away to a buyer of our GM 4106. She wants to charge for them but has no idea what to ask. We were going to use them for negotiation but we have two potential buyers so we expect to get our asking price, which we feel is very fair. Can anyone suggest a price for the four manuals?
Thanks, Sam MC8

[white-eagle]

i bought my Eagle manual for $60.  the real manual - paper.  i had earlier bought the CD versions of the engine and the bus for $300 i think.  Sort of depends on the condition and how many 4106 manuals are available.  scarcity of manuals and lack of knowledge about one's bus, could make them a valuable asset.

remember what someone paid for a piece of toast with a burned likeness of Jesus.  it's all in the need.

[gus]

Considering the thousands of dollars the new owner is spending it would seem only fair to include a few hundred dollars worth of manuals unless you are going to buy another 4106.

The buyer of my 4104 will get all the pubs I bought since I got it.

[buswarrior]

I'll give you $200 for them, if you don't let them go.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

[Chopper Scott]

When I bought my bus I got the manuals with it along with a lot of the manuals for everything that was installed in the bus such as the water heater, furnace, fridge and such. Invaluable? YES!! If they wanted $$$ for it I could get it on the internet instead. Not trying to be judgmental but if someone tried to sell me the manuals on top of the bus price I just might say kma. I don't deal well with someone milking every penny out of a deal.

[desi arnaz]

i concur i would say k.m.a and buy another bus.

[Sam 4106]

Hi white-eagle and buswarrior,
Thank you for providing useful information. Buswarrior, I will contact you off the board if the potential buyer doesn't buy the bus.
You others, if I had wanted to know whether I should give the manuals to a buyer that is what I would have asked.
Gus, good for you for offering all your manuals with your bus when you sell it. Will you be giving all the other things you bought for use with the bus too?
Chopper, you aren't trying to be judgemental? Then I guess you did it without trying. You and desi have helped us make our decision. We won't be offering any manuals to the potential buyers, we will just sell them to someone else and avoid the possibility of being told to .....
When we were taking our personal items out of the bus I asked my wife what she wanted to do with the manuals. her response was to take them out because she had paid a lot for them and we were already asking a fair price for the bus. When I pulled the manuals out of the cupboard I noticed a white envelope under them. When I opened the envelope there was $1000 cash inside. Had I not taken the manuals out that money would have stayed in the cupboard. If the new owner had been Gus, Chopper, or desi, do you think I would have ever seen that money again?
Oh, by the way, I will be offering the buyer items worth far more than the manuals with the bus. He can have any or all of the parts that I saved from the parts bus that I had including a complete spare engine, trim pieces, wiper motors, windows, enough oil for a change, spare filters, bumpers, and many other things that I could sell for $100s in scrap value. He will also get all the manuals for the components. We also offered to drive 150 miles to the airport to pick him up and he will be fed and housed while he is here.
Still think we are trying to milk all we can get out of him? If
Thanks Sam MC8

[gus]

Sam,

I've bought a whole bunch of parts since I got the bus.

Yes, they would all go to the buyer.

As I said, I see no point in trying to charge a buyer a few hundred bucks when he is spending thousands. Manuals are just a part of bus expenses.

It seems even more pointless to charge for manuals when including hundreds of dollars worth of other stuff??

If I were going to buy another bus of the same model it would be a different story but I would still include everything I got with the bus originally.

To each his own!

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't hide $1000 on my bus anywhere, let alone in a book!

If I happened to find your $1000 I would return it and I think most people would, especially busnuts. This is a no-brainer.

[Chopper Scott]

Insinuating Gus, Desi, or I as anything close to dishonest is rather rude. We responded to a question that you asked. We differ as to what you seem to believe is the right thing to do. And then you have to respond with a story about finding $1000 under one of the manuals and whether someone like us would return it. If you were unaware that it was there how can you be sure it is yours?

[jackhartjr]

If we were to have to get rid of the Scenicruiser...my thinking would be that as much of a pain in the you know where it was to collect those things...they would go with the bus!
Jack
PS...I know I paid a bunch for some of them...oh well...just part of this wonderful hobby!
PSS...I have said it before...I could be a drunk, spend $$$ on dope...chase wild lasivious women all over the place...or just enjoy making this dead bus come to life!

[johns4104s]

Sam,

Are you selling the wheels and tyres seperate or are you letting them go with the bus?

John

[luvrbus]

Guys I read here all the time where people are looking for manuals they don't seem to go with the bus for what ever reason a good friend of mine here had to pay extra for his manuals and he is still pissed about it but he paid huh Bob.
I would let the conversion equipment and the bus maintenance manual go with mine but not the engine manuals or the Allison manuals  I doubt if I would even offer those for sale to the buyer.


good luck

[Paso One]

Usually when I buy something, I ask do you have any manuals that go with it?  or what all is included with what your selling.

If the seller says no to the manuals, I take that into the decision to buy.

If the buyer made the decision to buy he was happy with the purchse deal as is.

Don't forget I bought Brian's bus for parts and found a safe built into the floor. He didn't know it existed, If I wasn't stripping it I liklely would not have found it.

No I haven't opened it yet so nothing to give back.

[Ed Hackenbruch]

Interesting problem there.  Since Brian didn't know the safe was there, who would you give the contents to? Did the owner before him know about it? How far back in ownership would/could you go?

[Paso One]

Yes interesting problem especially reading the comments above.

I grew up with the saying " finders keepers losers weepers" or something like that.

If I bought Sams bus and found the $1000.00 I think I would view it as " earned discount ". Heck he didn't remember it was even there so whats the obligation.  If he came later and said he forgot he hid $ 1000 thats a differant story.

How many times have you found change under the back seat You don't chase the previous owner down.

I asked Brian as soon as I discovered it wether he knew about the safe, and  did he know what might be inside.

I'll get around to opening the safe I told Brian I'd split it with him regardless of the amount.

I might feel bad if it was loaded with " drug  money"  then I would have a moral problem.

My luck it would be full of Canadian $$  But now that our $ is Par with the US $  I should maybe get at it.