Which came first the 4901 GM or the 4501 GM

[luvrbus]

Are they the same bus I read where only one 4901 was ever built any photos of the 4901 around

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[JackConrad]

Per Larry Plachno's book Modern Intercity Coaches, there was 1 4901 built in '54.  The 4501 was built in '54-'56.  Jack

[luvrbus]

I believe I have saw the 4901 before but without a photo I can not be sure, anyone know if the 4901 is what Peter Wilson has in his collection. Most of us Eagles owners love the old GM buses strange huh

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[jackhartjr]

Without getting out all my books, is that the last one GM built that was supposedly the last prototype built...looked a lot like an early MCI...or am I just muddying the waters here?
Jack

[luvrbus]

Looked more like a 4104 with 3 axles and 40 ft long to me Jack 

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[wildbob24]

Found at Bustalk.info:


'GM'S SPECIAL PDX 4901'

Pictured below in a factory pose is a 1954 GM Model PDX 4901 and the only one of its kind ever built.

The 40 foot long 49 passenger (47 with lavatory) coach dubbed the Golden Chariot but slated to be called the Super Highway Traveler was built on a PD 4501 (Greyhound Scenicruiser) frame and drive train and appeared to be a bloated version of the popular PD 4104 which had made its debut only the year before.

Powered by twin 4-71 Detroit Diesels installed longitudinally at the rear with a mechanical transmission, the PD 4901's combined horsepower was rated at 300 and configured to run on either single engine or both simultaneously.

Three under floor baggage compartments totaled almost 300 cubic feet and offered enough space for commercial revenue.

A little history on the 4901;

M. E. Moore, president of Continental Trailways, had a yen for a 40 foot bus and was very interested when the GM sales department came calling with the PDX-4901 in 1954.

GM promised different styling on the production model and Moore, still hungry for a niche coach, wrote a deposit check and signed an order.

GM, however, then went to Greyhound, and using the potential of a sale to Continental as an intimidation, asked if they were interested in buying as well.

Greyhound had already tried the car and had given it back with a "no thanks," and the second time their answer was the same. GM gave Moore his deposit check back thinking that if Greyhound wouldn't buy it, then they wouldn't build it for anyone else either.

Greyhound's experience with the Scenicruiser twin Diesels undoubtedly nixed any hope for the 4901's future!

Photos courtesy of GM Photographic.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/MISTERLINSKY/GMGOLDENCHAR2-1.jpg

[luvrbus]

Thanks Bob that is it the old North Star Lines 4901 that is one neat bus.
The guys on the Eagle board were talking about the 4901 but had no photos a 4104 on steroids wow


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[Dreamscape]

Thanks Bob that is it the old North Star Lines 4901 that is one neat bus.
The guys on the Eagle board were talking about the 4901 but had no photos a 4104 on steroids wow


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That is one neat looking coach! I like the 4104 look with the added length, it keeps the sports car look, only longer!

If I didn't already have a bus the 4104 would be a neat toy! I just need the living space we have now. Too hard to fit all of our junk in a short bus!

[johns4104s]

Paul,

I can give you a good price on a 4104. Call me.

John

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