91 Beaver Marq drive line

[JohnEd]

This is on craigs list for Portland Or area.  The interior is burned but recognizable.  BIG project there.  The drive line is supposed to be in excellent condition and it comes with an Onan gen, wheels and tires.  They are asking $5,500 for it and it runs and drives.   That sounds like a deal to me.   Located in SE Eugene, Or.

[JohnEd]

I would swear i had this address attached to the original post.  But.....

http://eugene.craigslist.org/rvs/1546129154.html

Hope this works cause I just tried it and it was OK.

John

[TomC]

Looks worth it for someone that wants to fix a stix and staples motorhome.  But it isn't a bus, nor even close to it.  This is the main reason I dislike propane.  Good Luck, TomC

[luvrbus]

Tom, I have set in on seminars at FMCA rallies about propane use and they say less than 1% of fires in Rev's are caused by propane 60% by wiring,28% by tires 11% by stupidity from the owners by not following the manufactures maintenance guide lines on propane appliances



good luck

[belfert]

If a fire resuts from lack of maintenance on a propane appliance wouldn't that then be considered a propane fire?

If the RV was all electric there would be no propane to burn.

[luvrbus]

Belfert, is stupidity the propane fault I would be willing to bet that was caused by someone not paying attention to a recall on the fridge and you will see the all electric coaches burned to the ground also




good luck

[cody]

I've had the dubious pleasure of being asked to redo only 3 fire repairs, all three of the fires were in different S&S units, all had propane appliances, and all 3 fires were caused by electric toe kick heaters that had lint buildups.  In my opinion all were the result of owner neglect, any appliance can be neglected if a person trys hard enough.

[JohnEd]

There was a recall for Norcold(?) that involved a fire hazard associated with the "ELECTRIC" mode of operation.  I only noted that that thing was destroyed by a fire that started with the refer....clueless as to how or any specifics.  I did read that almost all RV's die by fire and that the fires are almost always associated with wires.

I sure wasn't trying to steer anybody into a S&S rebuild.  HONEST!  If the engine and trans(must be an Alyson 5 speed World) were in operating order AND the thing was drivable I think someone around here with a bent towards repower would be interested.  It is either a Cummins or a CAT @ 300HP and complete.  Tires and alloy rims....somebody should have use for that stuff.  Somebody besides myself.

When these things are in my vacinity, Eugene, Or., I will go out and at least count the tires if you are interested.  We have a DD and Cummins service center up the road a piece.

Just try'n ta be helpful.

John

[Jeremy]

I'm sure that the statistical risk of propane is low, but my opinion is heavily swayed by the fact that I once saw a small flame from a minor stove accident on a boat rapidly turn into a raging inferno that totally destroyed the boat and seriously damaged several others. I won't have propane in my bus because of the perceived safety issue, and also because in the UK your life is made difficult because you have to employ licenced professionals to do any installation or servicing work on gas appliances.

Having said that I have an LPG installation on my Range Rover, despite the fact that one of my neighbours also used to have a Range Rover with LPG - and his caught fire one day and burned to the ground.

Whether you use propane is all about how you judge the risk / benefit equation. The fact that the LPG installation on my Range Rover halves the cost of running the vehicle makes it worth the small additional risk - and even if the worst was to happen the vehicle only represents a fraction of what I have invested in the bus for instance, where I consider that the small additional risk is too large to accept.

Jeremy

[Lin]

It would be interesting to see a breakdown of electrical fires in RV's.  It is theoretically possible that the increased use of electrical appliances could equalize the statistics compared to propane.  Now that is just theoretical, I have no idea if it does.  Anyway, if we can't count propane appliance neglect as a propane fire, then we can't count Cody's heater fires as electrical.

[Tom Y]

John, Thanks for the offer. The downside I would think is it has a small motor 8.2 maybe. Probably not enough for a bus. But I don't know, maybe I am wrong again.  Thanks Tom

[luvrbus]

Well, Jeremy on this side of the pond we  have the Fords burning to ground in garages with no propane involved only wiring.
The only point I was trying to make is propane is a safe product has been around for years without any problems but it always goes back to the human error never checking or doing any maintenance some RV are burned by the owner and propane gets the blame.
They have a rash of that here now with economy the way it is.
I read in the paper Wed where a guy lossen his gas line to make a leak and when the hot water heater came on it burned the place down and he facing 5 years now.

[cody]

Lin, the heater fires wern't mine, I was approached by the owners to rebuild the damage afterwards, didn't richard loose a bus to a heater fire a while back?  DML

[Lin]

Cody,

I used your name only referencing your post.  I know that they were not to your vehicles.

[DaveG]

And speaking of lint...anyone with gas dryer (in your home) look at the lint that accumulates underneath/inside near the burner? I have and it is kinda scary. If you have a gas dryer and haven't cleaned it in a while (or ever) you might wanna look...or check your homeowners policy!