Sad day at the Scenicruiser Orphanage

[luvrbus]

The problem Kyle will have is no court in the USA is going to give him what the stuff is worth it is going to be based on what he paid for the buses and their value on the open market.
The systems sucks but that is the way it works if the damage exceeds the value of the bus you are going to get the value of the bus and that will probably cost 2 year of attorney fees and if the people don't have money all you are get is a piece of paper for your efforts and if the guys move to Texas you can not have garnishment of any wages there and  some other states also that do the same.
Judements are just good for so many years some states 5 years some 7 years without renewal a PITA 


good luck

[expressbus]

So with the Luvrbus post, throwing the S O B under the bus is sounding better.

[Busted Knuckle]

The problem Kyle will have is no court in the USA is going to give him what the stuff is worth it is going to be based on what he paid for the buses and their value on the open market.
The systems sucks but that is the way it works if the damage exceeds the value of the bus you are going to get the value of the bus and that will probably cost 2 year of attorney fees and if the people don't have money all you are get is a piece of paper for your efforts and if the guys move to Texas you can not garnished any wages there and there are other states also that do the same. 
good luck

OK so I see where Kyle paid $10,000 for that one over there from his good friend Clifford in AZ (+ shipping to get it home), and  $10,000 for that over there from his other good friend BK in TN + shipping to get it home), and $7,500 + shipping for that one over there (really) from his 2 friends (can't remember their names), and $8,000 + shipping for that one there from his good friend FL Cliff, and so on and so on......
I'll be happy to write a bill of sale for the one he bought from me!;D
anyone else?  
Oh yeah and I was trying to buy it back, but we hadn't settled on a price yet, but I had just offered $15,000 & a freshly rebuilt 8V92 DDEC for it and I really believe Kyle was going to accept it before parts came up missing!  
 BK  

[John316]

Funny you mentioned it, BK. I was just going to offer 20K for one of those incredibly rare buses. But that was before they got vandalized. Too bad that happened.

God bless,

John

(just kidding)

[kyle4501]

There was the vandalism, sure. But how will the court treat the parts inventory that was stolen from inside the bus?

[Busted Knuckle]

There was the vandalism, sure. But how will the court treat the parts inventory that was stolen from inside the bus?

That was to be included in our deal.... "No parts, no $20,000 fresh 8V92 DDEC   !"
 BK  

[ArtGill]

Check and see if SC has laws against damage to historical items.  This would be another way to get the Juvenile's and increase the value of the damage.

Art

[Barn Owl]

Reading this thread has made me ill. I hope there is a way you can be made whole.

[kyle4501]

To be properly prepared for this battle, I need replacement prices.

I need credible prices. But, just how do you put a price on the irreplaceable?
I can only ask those that have parts let me know what they are really worth to them. . . .

So, here goes . . . .
Anyone have any scenicruiser bay doors for sale?
Front bumper?
Rub rails for the lower bay doors?
Clutch?
Transmission?
Drive shaft?
Fan drive assy including the special Ohio Gear Box & fan blade hub?
Radiator?
A/C condenser?

Thanks

[Don Fairchild]

Kyle;

Sorry to hear this happened. You can put me down as a friend that you bought one from and you it from cal to your place.

I believe you paid around $12,000.00 for it didn't you.

I think a Glok 9 mil looks real good to me. I believe they need to bring back cowboy Justice don't you.

Don

[BG6]

To be properly prepared for this battle, I need replacement prices.

I need credible prices. But, just how do you put a price on the irreplaceable?

Check with the antique truck clubs for sources on Big Iron parts.  Things like radiators are still being made (they can custom fab anything).  Get hold of the vendors and get written quotes for replacement parts.

Contact Ted at Coach Maintenance in Williams, CA for info on doors, etc, he usually has several Scenics there.

[uncle ned]

Kyle

I don't know about scenic radiators but a big one for my 04 was 2,200  bucks.

uncle ned

ps that was just the core used my top and bottom

[scenicruiser997]

Kyle, me solution comes with consequences, If I knew I wouldn't go to jail or burn in Hell, I would help you take care of this once and for all.   

[Charles in SC]

Kyle, I have been following this and really feel for you. Does the family involved have the resources to make it worth while to go after them for $$$. I am pretty sure the law is on your side with this. The most common thing happening the last few years has been the theft of outside HVAC units. There should be a lot of data about what the judgements have been. This seems to me kind of like your case. If some one steals the HVAC unit that is 20 years old I do not think the court takes the age into consideration when deciedeing what the crook has to pay back. In the papers I have read where a thief took the copper pipes out from under a house, the thief probably got $20 for it but it cost 1000 to replace so the damages were $1000. What did the cop detectives tell you. I think I remember you telling me you just installed those radiators and bay doors new didnt you?
Good luck, we feel for ya.
Charles

[Hartley]

Maybe you can get prices for the sheet metal including fabrication & delivery from IBP?

Just a thought..